The Mandela effect is a curious phenomenon that can really mess with your mind
Cooper and Anthony Show
June 21, 2026
The Most Convincing Examples Of The Mandela Effect On Songs #radio #radioshow #podcast #podcasting
Speakers Anthony Michaels, Cooper Lawrence
TopicsSociety & Culture
SPEAKER_1 (0:00)
The Cooper And Anthony Show.
It's like a bad relationship, you can't leave. Except the bad relationship is a radio show, and you keep tuning in.
Anthony Michaels (0:12)
Keeping on the music subject, Mandela Effect, you ready?
Cooper Lawrence (0:15)
First, explain to people what the Mandela Effect is before you.
Anthony Michaels (0:19)
A Mandela Effect is things that happened, but since we all died in 2001, then half the people went on one track of time.
Cooper Lawrence (0:33)
That's not what the Mandela Effect is.
Anthony Michaels (0:35)
It's exactly right.
Cooper Lawrence (0:36)
No, the Mandela Effect is when a group of people believe something false. There's something that did not happen, but we have a collective memory that it did happen, and we all think, yeah, that totally happened, but it definitely did not happen.
Anthony Michaels (0:49)
It didn't happen. Okay, so you don't believe, I believe. We'll see if you get this right.
Cooper Lawrence (0:54)
It's not a question of believe. The idea of the Mandela effect is that it's stuff that never happened.
Anthony Michaels (1:00)
All right, this happened, and we'll see how you remember it. You, Cooper Lawrence, because you know.
Cooper Lawrence (1:06)
For example, no, hang on, hang on. Let me give people an example, because you're not really helping here. Okay, in Star Wars, Darth Vader never says, Luke, I am your father.
Anthony Michaels (1:15)
He did.
Cooper Lawrence (1:16)
That's not the line. The line is, no, I am your father.
Anthony Michaels (1:19)
No, he says, Luke, that's how I remember it.
Cooper Lawrence (1:22)
Go watch the movie. Right, that's how you remember it, because it's wrong. But go watch the movie. You'll see that's not what happened.
Anthony Michaels (1:29)
Okay. You know Joan Jett.
You actually know her. You've had her tongue in your mouth.
Cooper Lawrence (1:36)
I have. And I had her hotel room key in my pocket.
Anthony Michaels (1:43)
Not a Mandela effect. True story. Look it up.
So, let's see if you remember this, how you remember this.
SPEAKER_4 (1:51)
You got a beautiful Mandela effect here for you today. It's Joan Jett with her song, I Love Rock and Roll. Now, there's a specific line that is said at the beginning of this song. It's the first line of the lyrics. And can you guess what that is? Throw it in the comments right now.
Anthony Michaels (2:06)
Okay. First line of Joan Jett, I Love Rock and Roll. A, is it a new song or old song?
Cooper Lawrence (2:13)
It's definitely an old song.
Anthony Michaels (2:17)
What's the first line?
Cooper Lawrence (2:20)
Well, this I happen to know. We all think it's, I saw him standing there by the record machine, but it's, I saw him dancing there by the record machine.
SPEAKER_4 (2:35)
And hit the follow on the like button if you wish as well.
Anthony Michaels (2:37)
I saw him standing there by the record machine.
SPEAKER_4 (2:40)
Now, if you said...
Cooper Lawrence (2:41)
That's what we think it is.
SPEAKER_4 (2:42)
I saw him standing there by the record machine.
Cooper Lawrence (2:46)
We're wrong.
SPEAKER_4 (2:46)
Then you would agree with it's probably a hundred percent of the population. That's what she says. But she actually never says that at all in the entire song.
Anthony Michaels (2:53)
Okay.
SPEAKER_4 (2:54)
I'll show you exactly what she says.
Cooper Lawrence (2:55)
Yeah, she says, I saw him dancing there by the record machine.
Anthony Michaels (2:58)
That's not right though.
Cooper Lawrence (2:59)
Yes. No, she says, I saw him dancing there by the record machine, but we think it's standing.
Anthony Michaels (3:06)
Now, how do we think it's standing when it's not standing?
Cooper Lawrence (3:09)
Because when you hear the song, the way she sang it, she sang it in a very rock and roll way. It wasn't very enunciated. It sounds like, I saw him dancing there by the record machine. And you're like, oh, that sounds like standing to me.
We all went, oh, that sounds like standing.
Anthony Michaels (3:26)
Okay. You and I went through this timeline and everybody else went through the other timeline.
I'll give you another one here and you tell me how this ends.
SPEAKER_5 (3:37)
Miss Jackson, why outcast? How many times did Andre have to say sorry to Miss Jackson?
Cooper Lawrence (3:47)
Hmm. Sorry, Miss Jackson. I am for real.
I don't know. A lot. Um, but how many times was there was there a chorus of four? He apologized four times.
SPEAKER_5 (4:05)
Was it a million times, a billion times, or a trillion times?
Cooper Lawrence (4:11)
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