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**Rupert Lowe** (0:51)
It's a very prescient question because this was happening to the Sikh community. Their girls were being raped. And the Sikh men actually did stand up and took control, and they defended their young girls.
But when people like Marlon West tried to do this here in the UK as a tax-paying, very upstanding member of his local community, the police made it very difficult for him to protect his daughter. And that is a common theme. So again, the police tended to side, I guess, for fear of being called racist with the people who were perpetrating the evil rather than the people who were trying to stop the evil.
And again, this is something we want to get to the bottom of. And we have said, and it's in the report, which you read, you will have seen, that we intend now to, we have a system here whereby we can bring private prosecution. So if the state won't prosecute something that's wrong, a private citizen can bring the evidence together, put the case and actually bring a private prosecution. And it's our intention to pick the worst culprits, both in terms of the perpetrators, but more importantly, you know, the NHS, as I say, the social services, the local government, the police, everyone who's failed in their duty, because in many ways, I think they're, they've got more blood on their hands than anybody else. And we need to-
**SPEAKER_1** (2:33)
Well, let me read this, because I think this is very important. I found a page where it says, this then escalated to coercion. The men began to showering the girls with attention, gifts, alcohol and drugs, then this escalated to coercion, gang rape and trafficking. They transported victims across towns, shared with friends and family, and sometimes forced conversions to Islam, followed by religious marriages. The Muslim men justified the abuse by describing white girls as easy, trash or morally inferior. The same networks targeted Sikh girls until Sikh communities mobilize collectively male protection and forced the gangs to withdraw. British girls were not permitted such a defense. This religiously framed exploitation was repeated in every major town and city and beyond. So one of the things I noticed when I read through the stories, I see a pattern. I see the girls that were raped numerous times over and over again didn't have a father in their lives. Typically, the mother, sometimes even the mother even knew about it. In one instance, the mother walks into the shower, the 11, 12 year old daughter is being raped and she walks out. She walks out because she's afraid of what's going to happen. And so this is why when I think about a story of 250,000 plus kids being raped and the father finds out, in the Armenian community, I'm Armenian and Assyrian and I lived in LA. If something like this happened to the Armenian and the Assyrian community, it would be chaotic.
It would be a war full on. So if the number is 250,000, I asked this question from you on Sunday, and I'm curious to know how you answered this. A father monects me from UK. He says, Patrick, I know what's going on in UK. It's disturbing. We hear about friends and family that are going through this. If the government's not willing to do anything about it, seven prime ministers last 10 years, do you think it's the Christian thing to do for us as men, ourselves to defend our young girls? I didn't have an answer for him.
What do you tell somebody like that?
**Rupert Lowe** (4:41)
Well, if the rule of law is working properly, Patrick, you want people to obey the law and abide by the law and respect the rule of law. But the question, I guess, is how long do you put up with a deficient legal system, a deficient police response, and an evil which is damaging the interests of your young people? I mean, sooner or later, people do have to act. But you've probably seen, as we were talking earlier, that the state clamps down very much on any form of dissent from the indigenous population, far more aggressively than they do other people, because they know that once that gets out of control, then we end up with a very, very serious problem.
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