Topics: True Crime, TV & Film
**Anne-Marie Green** (0:04)
Tonight, a special 48 Hours Mystery.
**Liz Devine** (0:12)
When I go into any scene, it's me versus the bad guy. And I know that I'm smarter, and I know that I'm better equipped.
**Anne-Marie Green** (0:20)
Whose fingerprints are all over the hit TV show CSI?
**Liz Devine** (0:24)
People like puzzles and mysteries.
**Anne-Marie Green** (0:27)
Here's a clue. This single mother of three has solved hundreds of murders as a real-life crime scene investigator.
**Bob Kyle** (0:35)
Liz, tell us how it's done.
**Anne-Marie Green** (0:37)
Richard Schlesinger is on the trail of CSI's secret weapon.
**Bob Kyle** (0:41)
She does everything for us.
**Mark Helgenberger** (0:42)
From the pronunciation of words to explaining the science.
**Bob Kyle** (0:47)
Action.
**Anne-Marie Green** (0:48)
Anne.
**Sergeant Larry Mitchell** (0:48)
Liz is one of the best crime scene investigators I've ever worked with.
**Anne-Marie Green** (0:51)
Sergeant Larry Mitchell is still working the streets.
**Sergeant Larry Mitchell** (0:55)
It's a pretty bad scene. We've been here for a couple of days.
**Anne-Marie Green** (0:58)
Still working the real CSI that Liz left behind.
**Detective Ray Peavey** (1:02)
That whole family, torture, murder.
**SPEAKER_8** (1:05)
Not your typical crime scene.
**Sergeant Larry Mitchell** (1:06)
This chair was moved from the dining room into the bedroom.
**Anne-Marie Green** (1:10)
Catching this killer comes down to one critical clue.
**Bob Kyle** (1:14)
The hair stood up on the back of my neck.
**Anne-Marie Green** (1:16)
A special 48 Hours mystery. The Investigators.
**SPEAKER_9** (1:26)
What we're talking about here is what it looks like. We realize that it's not a straight up hanging.
**Richard Schlesinger** (1:32)
In a small office hidden in the hills just outside Los Angeles, the body was pitched backwards over the railing. a murder mystery is unfolding.
**Liz Devine** (1:42)
What other forensics do we have?
**SPEAKER_9** (1:44)
We can tell from rope forensics that the knot was tied by somebody who was right-handed. So we're ruling him out as a suspect.
**Richard Schlesinger** (1:50)
But these aren't detectives.
**Liz Devine** (1:51)
Nice. I like it.
**Richard Schlesinger** (1:53)
They're television writers and for them, This is really good.
**SPEAKER_9** (1:56)
This is really good.
**Richard Schlesinger** (1:57)
murder comes easy.
**SPEAKER_9** (1:59)
There's a dead dwarf hanging from an upper balcony.
**Liz Devine** (2:04)
Who are you?
**Richard Schlesinger** (2:15)
Who are they? The number one show on television, CSI, on a familiar network, CBS.
They're a band of crime-solving scientists who have made geek the new chic, And this one here.
**Liz Devine** (2:30)
and made heroes out of people like On one of our close-up CSI shots.
**Richard Schlesinger** (2:33)
Liz Devine.
**Liz Devine** (2:35)
I've been able to tap into a creative side of me that I didn't know I had. And that's been kind of interesting.
**SPEAKER_11** (2:41)
All right, here we go, Mike, rehearsal up.
**Richard Schlesinger** (2:43)
Liz is a single mother of three. She worked for 15 years with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department as a real-life crime scene investigator, a criminalist, before becoming the technical advisor for CSI.
**Liz Devine** (2:57)
I really always thought I would be in law enforcement. I always did. I never thought I'd do anything but that. So to make a switch like that, it's very exciting stuff.
**SPEAKER_12** (3:08)
Let's clear, guys.
**Liz Devine** (3:08)
Here we go.
**William Petersen** (3:09)
She does everything for us. We had to have someone around all the time when we first started out to make sure that we knew what we were doing, that we were doing it right.
**SPEAKER_12** (3:16)
Let's roll. Roll, roll, roll.
**Mark Helgenberger** (3:20)
First two exhaustive appeals and get an execution day.
**William Petersen** (3:25)
How do you feel about it?
**Richard Schlesinger** (3:26)
William Peterson and Mark Helgenberger, the stars of CSI, both rely on Liz to make them look like scientists.
**SPEAKER_12** (3:34)
Cut, print.
**Mark Helgenberger** (3:34)
That was very nice. From the pronunciation of words to explaining the science to the wealth of experience that she's got.
**SPEAKER_9** (3:43)
Liz, tell us how it's done.
**Liz Devine** (3:45)
Well, I was just saying that...
**Richard Schlesinger** (3:47)
In just two years, Liz has earned the title Executive Story Editor.
She spent most of her adult life developing clues. Now she develops stories. There's no polite way to ask this. Do you feel like you've sold out?
**Liz Devine** (4:01)
Gosh, I hope not.
I did 15 years of forensics and it's a hard thing to do every day. You're dealing with people on the worst days of their lives and it's been nice to work in a different environment.
**Richard Schlesinger** (4:19)
Action. The popularity of CSI has led to a nationwide interest in forensic science, a largely unappreciated field about his glamorous as an autopsy.
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