The Hugging Face Breach, Moonshot AI Valued at $20B, and Living to 1,759 Years Old | EP #273

**Peter Diamandis** (0:00)
Hugging Face, the leading open platform for sharing, testing and deploying AI models. It got breached by an autonomous agent when the Hugging Face security team tried to analyze the attack using either Anthropic or OpenAI. Both models refused.

**Dave Blundin** (0:15)
Who knew all those sci-fi writers were right? What do you know?

**Peter Diamandis** (0:20)
Moonshot AI is valued at about 20 billion, and we have our frontier labs here at a trillion each.

**Salim Ismail** (0:25)
When startups raise money in a very abundant environment where they could raise lots of money, they all failed. It was the ones that raised money in the toughest environments that succeeded.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:34)
Again, the question that I've asked previously on the pod, what the heck are Western frontier labs doing with all of that capital?

**Peter Diamandis** (0:42)
If we cured every cause of aging, all of the 12 hallmarks of aging, how long would humans live? 1759 years. There are no fewer than six companies currently working on partial epigenetic reprogramming.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:55)
Obvious solution. This is in the style of Aubrey deGray is.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:07)
Welcome to Moonshots, everyone, your number one podcast on all things AI and exponential, your front row seat to the singularity, not the coming singularity. Alex, the singularity.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (1:18)
The singularity that surrounds us right now.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:21)
It is this week, news broke fast and it broke containment, literally.
I'm here with my Moonshot mates, AWG, our in-house ASI, our official super intelligence. You're welcome. You've been elevated. Dave Blundin, our Emperor of AI Investing, Salim Ismail, our Globetrotter who's now in his home and the CEO of OpenExO. I'm Peter Diamandis, your exponential host and your abundance evangelist. And I have to say guys, I do love our audience. The comments we get are pretty extraordinary. And I want to take a second just to celebrate them and say thank you.
It's worth taking a moment. I'm going to read some of the comments. For everybody listening, we do read your comments every single week. And the outpouring has been extraordinary. So let me take a second to say thank you.

**Dave Blundin** (2:14)
And this is just a random selection.

**SPEAKER_6** (2:17)
A random selection.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (2:18)
Yeah, there's definitely no bias in the sampling.

**Dave Blundin** (2:20)
None whatsoever.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:21)
Well, no. I mean, listen, I just want to share the love back at them. So Mercurian says, best tech podcast ever. Can't get enough. Never stop, guys. And I guarantee you we're never going to stop.
Jake says, I love this podcast. My favorite tech podcast. It's my go-to when I want to feel good about the future. And that is one of our goals, making sure you feel optimistic about where things are going. Lois says, thank you, thank you, thank you. Millions depend on you for trustworthy info on this evolution that's engulfing us. You are all gold. Ian says, you guys bring an extreme amount of value to my life. Thank you. Ellington, my biggest fear is that this podcast goes away. Love you guys. Okay.
Alex, are we going away?

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (3:04)
That is not the plan.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:07)
In fact, we're probably going consistently to two days a week and there's a...

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (3:11)
Can't stop, won't stop.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:12)
Yeah. My favorite comes from, my very comment comes from Digital Greece. He goes, Peter, suggesting that AWG make a first shooter game involving tickling bunny rabbits was my primary takeaway.
I have a comment...

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (3:25)
That's the most important element, clearly.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:28)
Yes, Salim, what?

**Salim Ismail** (3:30)
My wife, Lily, says to me the other day, this recursive self-improvement thing, can it apply to husbands?

**Peter Diamandis** (3:37)
Well, how's it going?

**Salim Ismail** (3:41)
That's great. I'm very linear.

**Dave Blundin** (3:44)
Where did the actual bunny rabbit game, where did that come from? Somebody submitted it.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:48)
Well, so at the end of this pod today, if you stick around to the end, we're going to show you two subscriber created video games that AWG inspired. So super excited about that. So everyone watching, we appreciate you. Do read your comments. They give us fuel. If you're new to this pod cast or if you haven't yet subscribed, please do. Take a moment to hit the subscribe button. Knowing you care enough to do that really fuels our work.
Guys, I hope you enjoy all these comments as much as I do.

**Dave Blundin** (4:20)
I love the trustworthy comment is one that kind of warms my soul because actually I've been listening to a bunch of other podcasts and everybody seems to have an agenda. And even if the agenda is just more ad views, so they get all dystopian, but often it's like some political agenda or some product agenda or whatever. It's like, wow, it is actually hard to find trustworthy information and we just do it because it's fun.