The Hidden Cost Of Overthinking Everything - George Mack - #1111

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
What were you doing before we left the house?

**George Mack** (0:03)
I was listening to Nickelback on 2x speed.

**Chris Williamson** (0:05)
You're listening to Nickelback on 2x speed?

**SPEAKER_3** (0:08)
Yeah.

**Chris Williamson** (0:09)
We just let that sit for a second. And you've been listening to Phil Collins on 1.5x speed?

**George Mack** (0:15)
Yeah, sometimes 1.6x.

**Chris Williamson** (0:18)
Do you want to explain yourself?

**George Mack** (0:19)
Well, I went through a phase that I'm still in, that I think YouTube is better to listen to music on, than Spotify or Apple Music, because you can get live tracks way more. It's underrated live tracks on YouTube. Just hearing the crowd.
And I've also stopped listening to hip hop as much.

**Chris Williamson** (0:42)
Okay.

**George Mack** (0:42)
Because I don't know about you, I started becoming a bad person when I'd listen to hip hop too much.
Did you never get the one? Well, if you just listen to people committing crimes in your head all day long, you do become a bit of a terrible person.

**Chris Williamson** (0:57)
Well, this is what we found when you were at Social Chain, and we were talking about George Serotonin, Chris listening to Anjuna Deep, and then it was cortisol George and cortisol Chris listening to Kanye West. That was pre-cancellation as well.

**George Mack** (1:11)
Yeah. I mean, even Kanye wouldn't be full cortisol, it would be like DMX or very angry Tupac.

**Chris Williamson** (1:19)
Okay.

**George Mack** (1:19)
So, Vidi Paz is great, Jedi Mind Tricks.

**Chris Williamson** (1:22)
You've explained to me why you think that YouTube is a good platform. You haven't necessarily explained to me why you've been listening to-

**George Mack** (1:30)
Just taking a little interlude.

**Chris Williamson** (1:31)
Phil Collins at 1.6 times speed.

**George Mack** (1:33)
So, when I go to the gym, I put tunes on YouTube, usually live tracks. But then, I was listening to Nickelback Rockstar, which is a completely underrated song. But if you listen at 1x speed, it's quite hard to work out to. But if you go and listen to-
If you listen to hip hop, it's too aggressive.

**Chris Williamson** (1:56)
Then you want to go and commit a crime.

**George Mack** (1:57)
But Nickelback at 1.8x speed, Rockstar, Customizer, you change the beats per minute and great workout. But this is actually really sad.
This is really sad, this part, which was on- If you look at Nickelback, Rockstar, and you go in the comments, it's like this boy talking about how his dad used to listen to Nickelback, Rockstar, and he's now just about to have surgery, and he's unsure if he's going to wake up, and he's listening to Nickelback, Rockstar. So I'm there listening to it at 1.x speed, reading the comment section.

**Chris Williamson** (2:25)
Why are you in the comments?

**George Mack** (2:26)
I got incredibly sad. I don't-

**Chris Williamson** (2:28)
Your speed listening to Nickelback reading sad comments.
Okay. Well, have you seen the- There's a conspiracy theory that Nickelback's downfall in the mid-2000s was to try and demoralize America after 9-11.

**George Mack** (2:40)
No. Why demoralize America?

**Chris Williamson** (2:42)
That Nickelback was kind of on this surgeon, so it was sort of American spirit. It was the equivalent for them in the new world after this horrible catastrophe that occurred. And it's this huge long documentary, like 40-minute, 50-minute breakdown of exactly why Nickelback was sort of taken down from the inside.

**George Mack** (3:03)
I think Nickelback are one of the most underrated bands of all time, because people thought they were one of the most overrated bands of all time. They're now one of the most underrated bands of all time, until they then become the most overrated because it's swung back again.

**Chris Williamson** (3:14)
Well, this is like Creed, right? Creed got to come back around.

**George Mack** (3:19)
There's this great video that's breaking down, why do people hate Nickelback?
One of the theories is that they try a little bit too hard as well. Whereas some of these edgier bands during the era, which ironically everybody's forgot. There was this interview with the lead singer of Nickelback, and he's talking about how he would study songs, figure out why songs work.

**Chris Williamson** (3:38)
He's like the Mr. Beast of music.

**George Mack** (3:39)
Yeah.

**Chris Williamson** (3:40)
Because he was trying so hard. Well, there's something about being nonchalant that's cool. There's always going to be something cool about being nonchalant, especially if you're British, but it's not a very American personality trait to enjoy nonchalance in the same way as a Brit does. Because the Brit, everybody enjoys nonchalance, but the Brit enjoys nonchalance. I nearly said nonchalance.