The Hacksmith Podcast | Bioregulators, Censorship, and 3rd Party Testing

Hunter Williams (0:19)

Hey, everybody, this is Hunter Williams. I hope you're doing amazing wherever you are at in the world. I have one of my good friends, Hackie, here. And if you're in the fringe world of peptides, like we all are, you have probably seen his content somewhere. I think the truest badge of honor in our world is to get deleted off of any platform, particularly the big ones like TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, you name it. And he has gotten all those terminations just like I have myself. So, you know, we were kind of talking beforehand, you know someone is probably saying something that is true or resonant if they are getting kicked off and terminated and shadow banned off these platforms. So, Hackie, I'm excited for this one. I think we are going to cover a lot of really cool things today. But first of all, how are you doing?

Hackie (1:04)

Going good, man. I'm super excited to be here and been looking forward to this for a while. So, glad to be on here. And like you said, yeah, just fighting through and pushing through with the grill of warfare of social medias and peptides.

Hunter Williams (1:16)

Yeah, it's crazy. We were kind of talking just as creators in the space.

I think it would be easier if we knew like the rules of the game of, hey, you can say this, you can't say this. But there really is no guidelines or rules of what to say. So, you do your best to try to put out good content that is useful to people, that helps them. And I think it's unlike any other industry to know that your life's work can just be deleted overnight to like, create content, get followers on a platform and then have it deleted and nuked. So, it does stink. I think what makes it rewarding is just that knowing we're helping people with some of the material. And so that makes it worth it. And for me, I know it probably the same for you is just, when you're putting out content that changes people's lives because of what they learn from you, it kind of motivates you to keep doing that. So, it's one of those things. It is what it is, but we fight the good fight, right?

Hackie (2:06)

Yeah. If it wasn't for people on the other end sharing that and saying like, hey, this is what the results have been, then it would be a lot harder to return and power back through doing all that stuff. But like you said, that's what makes it worth it.

Hunter Williams (2:18)

Yeah, for sure. Well, I'm excited.

I think when I do podcasts with people, I know you are, and I'm very selective about who I talk to. I always wanted to come off more as just like talking shop. I know in terms of people out there that have large sample sizes of different user experiences with peptides, I know you were probably one of the top 10 people out there that has just made enough content to see enough user experiences with peptides.

To me, there's perhaps nothing more valuable in those user experiences to be able to help people. I think when it comes to peptides, the old tropes like, oh, there's no human studies, right? Well, it's like, yes, that's majority true, right, that there are no human studies. But we probably just between even two guys like me and you, have more case studies or anecdotes or human examples of people that have used some of these products more than even a lot of clinically approved drugs actually have when they have quote unquote human studies. I'm always excited just to talk to other people in the space, kind of talk shop with you and see what you're seeing on a daily basis. I think one of the first things that we kind of mentioned that would be good to talk about is some of the bioregulator stuff. I get super excited about bioregulators because when you see something work over and over again, it's hard not to want to shot it from the rooftops. And I know my own life, like I've seen several of these bioregulators have incredible effects just across all different domains of health, not just like metabolic, but injury healing, immune system healing.

So as far as bioregulators go, are there any out there that you've just seen recently that really excites you or get you out of bed in the morning to kind of want to shot from the rooftops about how good they work?

Hackie (4:02)

Yeah. And even before we go into that too, I think the hardest part about the bioregulators too is that there's such a lack of knowledge about the existence even of bioregulators, right? And so somebody says, hey, and I'm going to go into one of the examples, somebody says, hey, I'm having issues with kidney function, right? And somebody will be like, well, you know, maybe you could try this or that, right? But they're not direct improvers of kidney function, right? And probably the most impressive one that I've seen, and the one that I've seen the most data on in terms of anecdotal experiences from people is going to be Pielotax, which is the kidney bioregulator, right? And I've seen that one actually be used in people who are 80 plus years old, like multiple different times, and people who are 80 plus years old, right? And like to me, for something that exists where there's not like a direct peptide for kidneys, right? For people that are out there right now.