THE FEMINISM DEBATE: Is Feminism Betraying Women? The Hidden Risk Of Casual Sex!

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Erica Komisar (0:33)

The feminism movement didn't unite women, it split women.

Deborah Frances-White (0:36)

I feel totally.

Erica Komisar (0:36)

Wait, listen. Fifty percent of young women don't want to have children. They're really preoccupied with making money and materialism.

Deborah Frances-White (0:43)

But we're still looking at a society that is increasingly telling women where they could be better.

Louise Perry (0:49)

But sometimes feminism expects women to be prioritized, and both sexes want the privileges without the responsibilities.

Erica Komisar (0:55)

Can I just add, we are producing women and men who are ****, and I'll tell you what I mean by that. It'll be an interesting discussion.

Steven Bartlett (1:02)

We're joined by three leading and outspoken voices in female societal issues with very different opinions. To unpack the choices and consequences women face in modern society.

Deborah Frances-White (1:11)

The Sexual Revolution gave women freedom.

Louise Perry (1:13)

But things like the washing machine, women entering the labor force, the pill had enormous social changes. For instance, it gave the illusion that sex was consequence free.

Erica Komisar (1:22)

But the second wave of the feminist movement was every woman should want free sex. And yet 82% of young women are depressed and anxious after casual sexual encounters. Or every woman should want to go out to work and leave their children in daycare. But we are doing terrible damage to our children by putting them in daycare.

Louise Perry (1:40)

This strain of feminism has basically aspired as much as possible to make women like men. And now gender roles are changing.

Erica Komisar (1:47)

And we've gone so far, so we have women dominating men.

Deborah Frances-White (1:50)

How are we dominating men though?

Erica Komisar (1:51)

Oh my goodness. Sixty percent of college students are women.

Deborah Frances-White (1:55)

Let's not ask, dominate men.

Erica Komisar (1:56)

No, let me finish. Young men are afraid of women and the power they have over them.

Deborah Frances-White (2:00)

Oh God, to blame feminism for those things. I mean, it's insane.

Erica Komisar (2:04)

But there are solutions.

Steven Bartlett (2:06)

I'm just going to jump in there and talk about a report that came out in 2025 And this was really shocking. What are your thoughts about this?

Louise Perry (2:11)

Okay, so first of all.

Steven Bartlett (2:16)

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Let's start with some introductions. Louise, what is your professional background and what do I need to understand and know about your experiences that feed into your perspective on this subject?

Louise Perry (3:13)

So my professional background, I'm a journalist. I write about ideas for a living. I don't have like a political agenda. I just write and say things that I think are true. In terms of how I arrived at some of my views on what we're going to talk about today, the sexual revolution, I think I was raised with a lot of the assumptions around the sexual revolution, which are sort of like the water that we swim in now culturally. And it wasn't until I got to university that I started gradually unpicking them. After I left university, I worked in a rape crisis center. Which was quite formative for me, in that I saw some of the ways in which some of the feminist theory that I had learned at university didn't quite map onto reality.