The Demon Haunted Bible

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Dan Beecher (0:39)

And of course, all of this is just something bad guys would say. So we're obviously in that latter category.

Dan McClellan (0:46)

Yeah, oh yeah. I get reminded every day that I am a demonic tool of Satan. Yeah, it warms the cockles of my demon possessed heart.

Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:05)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:06)

And you are listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How are things Dan Beecher?

Dan Beecher (1:20)

Things are great. I'm enjoying, you know, it's the fall season. It's an exciting time when, you know, all the pretty things die and go away and all of the bad weather haunts us and takes over. And I try to enjoy it, but it's tricky. But it's a good time, I think, for a spooky show.

Dan McClellan (1:51)

Yes, it's a good time when we're recording this for a spooky show. When anyone is listening to it, the spooky time will have passed.

Dan Beecher (2:00)

Okay, okay, okay, fine. We are recording on Halloween.

We both have ADHD. You can't expect us to think that far into the future so that we record a show and it comes out in a timely fashion. That's just not how we do.

Dan McClellan (2:16)

I just watched Hot Ones earlier, and it's Jimmy Fallon, the episode that came out today, and it's a Halloween special. And I was like, they probably recorded this in July. Yeah. And so I was like, they have a clue what they're doing.

Dan Beecher (2:32)

Look, if we had producer money, maybe we'd be able to do this, but as of yet, we're not quite that rich. You guys haven't shared us with all of your friends, and you haven't all signed up to be patrons yet. So until that point, Spooky Show comes when Spooky Show comes, and that am now.

Dan McClellan (2:56)

Yeah, we barely have production money. Yeah, exactly.

Dan Beecher (3:02)

So anyway, but it's a fun one. We're going to be diving into a subject that a lot of our listeners slash viewers have requested. So I'm excited about it. So let's just dive right in.

Dan McClellan (3:19)

Yes, let's.

Dan Beecher (3:20)

So here's the thing, Dan, when we decided we were going to talk about demons on the show. Here's the thing about this show. What I have learned from doing this show for a year and a half is that A, everything I thought I knew about the Bible is probably not right. And B, a lot of the things that you hear the most about from, especially from certain fringe areas of Christian or, you know, theological study, you I can dismiss it. Like, for instance, when they, you know, when I hear people screaming that abortion, that the Bible says abortion is the murder of babies and that it's very clear on this, I know that's nonsense. And when the or if they say that, you know, the Bible is anti-LGBT and you should be too. I know that that's nonsense. I'm used to thinking that when the fringes are really emphatic about something, it's, they've probably really put a whole lot of lenses on it to get to this thing. So when I started researching demons, I was like, I wonder if that's even in the Bible. And then I went and I was like, oh, it's in the Bible. Holy cow. So it's not that. It's not one of those.

Dan McClellan (4:49)

Right.

Dan Beecher (4:49)

It's not one of those things that's not even really there. Oh, it's there.

Dan McClellan (4:54)

It's in the New Testament.

Dan Beecher (4:56)

Yeah.

Dan McClellan (4:57)

Yeah.

Dan Beecher (4:57)

The. Oh, that's an interesting point. Yeah.

Dan McClellan (5:00)

Yeah. And we'll talk a little bit about why.

Dan Beecher (5:03)

Okay.

Dan McClellan (5:03)

But yeah. But continue. I'm sorry. I interrupted.