The Art of Mindfulness | Dr. Jack Kornfield
Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais
January 6, 2021
This week’s conversation is with Jack Kornfield, a PhD, who holds a doctorate in clinical psychology. He has trained as a Buddhist monk in the monasteries of Thailand, India, and Burma, and is a founding teacher of the Insight Meditation Society, and the Spirit Rock Center.
Speakers Jack Kornfield, Michael Gervais
TopicsSelf-ImprovementEducationHealth & FitnessMental Health
SPEAKER_1 (0:00)
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Jack Kornfield (1:12)
One of the first skills that one learns in the art of mindfulness, of mindful presence, or mindful kind attention, is to name and acknowledge the states of mind without getting lost in them. And one of the most helpful acknowledgments is of the judging mind. So there you are, doing your art, you're playing music, you're playing ball, you're painting, you're whatever it happens to be. And then the judging mind comes to start it earlier. You should have, you could have done this, you could have learned this, you would have, all those things. And you could say, oh, I hate this judging. I want to get rid of, judging is terrible. No more judging. I'm going to, what was your word? Eradicate that sucker, you know? Stop judging, I hate judging. But what's that? It's another judgment, right? Just piles on. Instead, what you do is you turn almost with a bow and you say, judging, judging mind. And then if you need to, or if it's helpful, you can say, thank you for your opinion to that part of your mind. And if you want to take it one level deeper, you can even reflect now, whose voice does that remind you of? Because it's not just your own. It was recorded in there from school, parents, whatever. We won't talk about them. Okay, thank you for your opinion. I'm actually okay for now.
You can rest, put them on the sideline and go on. And it will arise a number of times. But all of a sudden, your relationship to the judging mind becomes one of not living inside it with the belief that it's true, but seeing it as just conditioned. And that is, this is a small example, a small window or doorway into the kind of inner freedom that comes as we learn to meditate and learn to practice.
Michael Gervais (3:21)
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