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The Annual NFC Over/Unders With Bill Simmons, Cousin Sal, and Joe House

The Bill Simmons Podcast

August 28, 2026

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal and Joe House LIVE on Netflix for Part 1 of their annual NFL over/unders pod. First up: the NFC!
Speakers: Bill Simmons, Cousin Sal, Joe House

Topics: Sports

**Bill Simmons** (0:00)
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Let's go. Let's go.

**Cousin Sal** (1:58)
Yeah, baby.

**Bill Simmons** (2:00)
Year 20 for us, Cousin.

**Cousin Sal** (2:01)
Wow.

**Bill Simmons** (2:02)
We have been doing podcasts together about the NFL since the 2007 season. I did the math.
That's 20 years this year.

**Cousin Sal** (2:11)
Hold on a second.

**Bill Simmons** (2:12)
I don't know if we did Over, Unders and 07, but this is our 20th season together. We brought some special guests. Farrah Fawcett is here, one of the people we had our first crushes on.

**Cousin Sal** (2:20)
I think she likes me.

**Bill Simmons** (2:22)
Don Johnson is going to have a couple of cigarettes. And then Joe House in the Craigslist.

**Joe House** (2:26)
Wow, amazing.

**Cousin Sal** (2:27)
He looks so much more alive than Don and Farrah. How did you get that poster?

**Joe House** (2:32)
I wore my goat hat because I'm huddling it on to be here with the goats.

**Cousin Sal** (2:37)
Is Don Johnson going to be upset when we take the Dolphins under two and a half wings?

**Bill Simmons** (2:40)
I think he's going to be upset.
Joe House is going to chime in after every division and then also be a tiebreaker for us every once in a while. All right. We don't want to mess with the format too much, but with that, House is here. We're doing a big Ringer of Fantasy football draft tomorrow. Fantasy has already quit the draft five times, but we're doing that live on Netflix tomorrow. And this is a two-part podcast. This is the NFC, Win Total Over, Unders, and then that's going to be live on Netflix. And then AFC will be running on Sunday. We're doing it all once today.

**Cousin Sal** (3:11)
And this is one of my favorite days of the year.

**Bill Simmons** (3:14)
We have some redemption stuff, Sal. Neither of us did that well last year.
It was off year for us.

**Cousin Sal** (3:18)
A lot of red, a lot of red markings there.

**Bill Simmons** (3:20)
What happened? Because the higher end stuff, I feel like I did well and it was like the middle class, the lower ones killed me.

**Cousin Sal** (3:26)
Well, that's why this is the best day of the year, because we're going to go 32 and after today. And then week one when Cincinnati like actually loses the whole first month. I'm like, oh, what the hell happened?

**Bill Simmons** (3:36)
Well, so big picture. Everyone has too much information now.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:40)
Yeah.

**Bill Simmons** (3:40)
This is the hardest I've ever been. You guys have been doing it on Ring Your Game League Show, Division by Division. You've done a great job of not tipping your hand.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:46)
Thank you.

**Bill Simmons** (3:46)
You and I, the whole summer, really the first year, we've really tried to not tell each other what we're thinking.

**Cousin Sal** (3:53)
Yeah. It's like the bride and groom aren't supposed to see each other the day of the wedding, but ours is for like 60 days.

**Bill Simmons** (3:59)
House knows some of my stuff. We went over some stuff today as we digested Bianco's pizza from last night.

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