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The Alien in Dr. Jonathan Reed's Freezer

AREA52 Podcast With Chris Ramsay

October 23, 2026

This man attacked an alien with a stick and filmed it. Then he put it in his freezer. Then it woke up and started screaming at him. That's Dr. Jonathan Reed. Or at least that's the name he goes by.

Speakers Chris Ramsay, Jonathan Reed

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SPEAKER_1 (0:01)

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Chris Ramsay (0:41)

These are the panic breaths of a man who just killed an alien.

In October 1996, a man who goes by the name Dr. Jonathan Reed, went on a hike with his dog Susie, went to his horror. Susie encounters a strange creature. According to Reed, this creature violently tears his companion in half in front of his eyes.

Blinded by rage, Reed grabs the nearest blunt object and with one swift blow, the stick connects with the being's head. Both Reed and the supposed ET being collapse. What follows is a tale that involves discovering alien technology, hiding a body, running from hitmen and, according to Reed, an ongoing communication with an alien race. This is by far the most debated, contentious and polarizing case in UFO history. Mention Reed's name to two researchers and you'll start a fight. Some claim the footage is objective evidence of ET contact, while others believe it was all made up for attention.

Jonathan Reed (1:50)

Every day I wake up and I know that there's 14 people who are dead because of me.

Chris Ramsay (1:59)

I traveled to Seattle to sit down with Reed for nearly three hours to find out for myself. As you'll see, there are definitely parts of the story that don't seem to add up. The claims are just too grandiose. Even his name is a pseudonym which he gave himself to allegedly protect his identity. But protected from what exactly? From the people he claims that are after him, or to protect his real identity, which may or may not live up to the academic pedigree he's presented? Of course, I'm skeptical. That goes without saying. But what if even 1 percent of what he is alleging is true? What if he did confront an alien in the woods?

Is that not worth pursuing? As always, I urge my viewers to simply suspend their disbelief. For the next few hours, look beyond the skeptical confines we've created for ourselves. Allow your level of conviction to fluctuate and see if anything lands. And I'll see you on the other side. Stay tuned to the end of the video for an Area52 exclusive where Dr. Reed shares with us for the very first time an object allegedly made from the metal found at the site.

All right.

We are here with Dr. Jonathan Reed. Just watch the documentary, Contact in the Woods.

Jonathan Reed (3:25)

But again, the proof was only freezing.

The entity that I call Freddie is in constant communication with me. It has to do with things that are happening now, and that are going to be happening soon.

Chris Ramsay (3:51)

I've been following your story for quite a while. As many people on the Internet have, I'm sure they've reached out or tried to reach out to you.

Before we get into your story, because I do want to get into that, because there are some details that I just, I'm curious about, and I want to see if there's anything else there that we can glean from that. But before we do, first of all, I want to say thank you for meeting me.

Jonathan Reed (4:15)

It's my pleasure. It's an honor to meet you, and thank you for taking the time to listen.

Chris Ramsay (4:24)

Absolutely.

Jonathan Reed (4:25)

There's something you can gain from that or share with other people, with your audience. I sincerely appreciate it.

Chris Ramsay (4:32)

Well, I appreciate that. Thank you, John. There's a lot to this story. There's a lot to unpack from not only the encounter.

Obviously, that's probably the crux of all of this. But even I think there might be more to unpack with just the repercussions in the aftermath of what was caused by that encounter. Not just for you, psychologically speaking, maybe medically speaking, but also for those around you, and so many more who've tried to look into this case, which is why I guess you've been so reluctant in coming forward after initially coming out. Why now?

Why come out now? What's the impetus for that?

Jonathan Reed (5:35)

Well, let me go back a little bit and explain that in the beginning way back in 1996, when I first came out publicly, I did that with Art Bell. I didn't know what an Art Bell was at the time, but I learned very quickly who he was and what he did. And he had a very large audience, 25 million close to. And for way back then, I guess that was a very good number because that was previous to the Internet. It was right as the Internet was catching on. So, but I learned that he was very amicable and had a lot of, shall we say, background information on others that had similar situations. And so that he could empathize, he could give me some solace to talk with him. And we actually became friends until his death, and which is very unfortunate. But what I wanted to say regarding the background, is the first 10 years of this from 96 on, I talked to everybody. I did every podcast. In fact, they didn't call in podcasts then. But I did all that kind of stuff. I even put myself on what I call the circus, where you're out in the public, you go to the conferences, and they poke and prod you and get you to do all these things.

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