The AI War: OpenAI Ads & Sora 2, Grok Partners With US Government & Google’s Ad Business is at Risk w/ Dave Blundin, Salim Ismail, & Alex Wissner-Gross | EP #198
Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
October 4, 2025
Salim Ismail is the founder of OpenExO Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified, focused on AI and complex systems.
Speakers Peter Diamandis, Alexander Wissner-Gross, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin
TopicsBusiness
Peter Diamandis (0:00)
Very recently, we've seen the creation of Sora 2
Alexander Wissner-Gross (0:04)
We're seeing in front of our eyes the transition from algorithmic content selection in social media to algorithmic content generation.
Salim Ismail (0:14)
This isn't about sharing content. The creation of the content is completely up for grabs.
Peter Diamandis (0:19)
Meta launches Vibes, app for AI-generated videos.
Dave Blundin (0:23)
They're spending a billion dollars on single employees, yet they turn a mid-journey and black forest to build this out.
Peter Diamandis (0:29)
The most shocking thing about this isn't how real it is. It isn't how easy it is to use. It's the fact that it's free. That is shocking. OpenAI is bringing ads to ChatGPT.
Dave Blundin (0:41)
The AI is going to be incredibly good at convincing you to do things, whether they're right or wrong. It's a very tricky balance. And because they're spending so much money on the data centers, there's a huge incentive to get really aggressive with the advertising.
Peter Diamandis (0:54)
Making all of the demonetization and democratization occur around the world are the ongoing AI wars. Let's jump in.
Dave Blundin (1:04)
Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.
Peter Diamandis (1:09)
Everybody welcome to Moonshots, another episode of WTF Just Happened in Tech, here with my favorite friends on the planet, Dave Blundin. Good to see you, pal. Salim Ismail.
SPEAKER_5 (1:21)
I am back.
Peter Diamandis (1:22)
You are back. And AWG, you're back from your top secret mission.
Dave Blundin (1:26)
Thank God.
Peter Diamandis (1:27)
Thank God.
Dave Blundin (1:28)
Are you going to tell us anything about it?
Alexander Wissner-Gross (1:31)
To the extent that you think that we're on the verge of a sharp takeoff, a hard takeoff, if you will, I was traveling in Europe to see what the world looks like beforehand.
Peter Diamandis (1:43)
Yeah. So you're updating your baseline of what the world is before things go hyper-exponential. Exactly.
Alexander Wissner-Gross (1:52)
If it isn't a gentle singularity, I'd like to know what it looks like beforehand.
Peter Diamandis (1:55)
Okay, great. You know what I was doing last week? I was running my Abundance Longevity Summit. I had 50 of the world's top scientists, entrepreneurs who are focused on adding decades, maybe doubling our human lifespan, and it was awesome. So I walk away with the greatest confidence in the world that at least our friends and our subscribers are going to be hearing us talk about this stuff for the next 50 years or some version of ourselves.
Salim Ismail (2:25)
That is really a frightening thought.
Peter Diamandis (2:28)
All right, buddy. Welcome to Moonshots. And let me begin with a moment of thanks. I want to just give a shout out to one of our subscribers, Bill Jacobs, 386 I'm going to read a note he posted. We do read your notes. We love it. We're here to serve you. And he wrote, I am continually humbled by the amount of commitment and effort that's required to put this podcast together weekly. I'm not asking for anything in return. Nothing that is except to listen and hopefully learn before it's too late. The future is now. And I think I'm speaking for most of us here. How grateful we are. Thank you. Appreciate that, Bill. That kind of feedback actually makes it fun for us to serve our subscribers, serve all of you. Dave, you want to say anything to that?
Dave Blundin (3:21)
Well, most of that thanks goes to the team behind the scenes. There's a huge amount of news out there that gets scoured down to the bullets that we think really, really matter to people. And then also to Alex's agents, which are getting bigger by the day. His AI force is coming up. I mean, it's just, it's incredible how rapidly the feedback coming from that agent force is filling the pipeline of possible news. And then of course, the human factor whittling it down. So it's a big machine.
Peter Diamandis (3:49)
Yeah. And we do spend a good 20 plus hours. I was up at 4.3 this morning, going through everything, doing my background research and getting ready. Because if I'm not ready, I would get completely decimated by the brilliance of these other three Moonshot mates.
Dave Blundin (4:06)
Well, you know, I also, I feel like I work really hard to keep up with everything going on. Then every time the team comes up with a deck, there's like 30, 40 percent of it are things I hadn't even heard of.
Peter Diamandis (4:14)
Yeah.
Dave Blundin (4:14)
And so it's great. It's really healthy for all of us, I think, to do this.
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