The Adult(ery) Episode
Data Over Dogma
October 20, 2025
Ooooh... this week's show is keeping it SPICY! First we're going to tackle what might at first feel like one of the least controversial of the Ten Commandments. But if you've listened to this show, you know that's almost never the case.
Speakers Dan McClellan, Dan Beecher
TopicsSociety & CultureHistory
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Dan McClellan (0:54)
Or I will remove the name of the balls from her mouth. Well, the names, the names of the balls.
Dan Beecher (1:01)
The names of the balls.
Dan McClellan (1:02)
Yeah, Thunder and Lightning.
Dan Beecher (1:07)
Donner and Blitzen. All right.
Dan McClellan (1:09)
If the left one don't get you, then the right one will. Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.
Dan Beecher (1:20)
And I'm Dan Beecher.
Dan McClellan (1:21)
And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma Podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How go things today, Dan?
Dan Beecher (1:35)
Things go well for me. You're back under the weather, I think, a little bit.
Dan McClellan (1:40)
A little bit, I'm on the end of it.
Dan Beecher (1:43)
I'm guessing that our listeners will forgive a little bit of nasal resonance coming out of you.
Dan McClellan (1:49)
Hopefully, yeah. I think sometimes it can make the baritone a little more pleasing.
Dan Beecher (1:54)
A little sexier. All right. All right. He's going for sexy, everybody.
Dan McClellan (1:59)
Well, when I was a missionary, there was a time I called into the mission office, into the mission home. I was in the offices. I was the financiero. I was the financial secretary for several months.
And I had a great relationship, still do, with my mission president's wife, Julie. She was wonderful. We all called her La Hermana. But one day I called in, I had a cold. And I was, and I was like, is the president there? And she was like, who is this? I was like, Elder McClellan. She's like, your voice sounds really sexy, Elder McClellan. And that made me deeply uncomfortable. Wow.
Dan Beecher (2:35)
There you go. I like it.
Dan McClellan (2:38)
But shout out to Julie. She's awesome.
Dan Beecher (2:40)
What did you call her? La Esposa?
Dan McClellan (2:43)
La Hermana.
Dan Beecher (2:43)
La Hermana. The woman.
Dan McClellan (2:45)
The sister.
Dan Beecher (2:47)
Oh, the sister.
Dan McClellan (2:47)
That's what it is. Yes. And so, yeah, anyway, moving beyond my extreme discomfort with that. Yeah. Yeah.
Dan Beecher (2:59)
Let's, let's, it was called into a show. I think we can do it. Today we're going to be doing a couple of fun segments. And we're keeping it sexy. I think, I think we're going to keep the theme sex themed throughout the entire show.
Dan McClellan (3:14)
We're bringing sexy way back. Way back.
Dan Beecher (3:18)
Way back to the...
Dan McClellan (3:19)
2800 years almost.
Dan Beecher (3:20)
Yeah, exactly. We're going, we're going as far back as, as we can comfortably go. The first thing we're going to do, we're going to, we're going to do an It's the Law. We haven't done one of these for a little while. Yeah. And, and that's going to be one of, one of the, one of the top 10 of all of the commandments. Yeah.
Dan McClellan (3:40)
Of all the 10 commandments, this is one of them.
Dan Beecher (3:43)
It is one of them. And, and it is, and it is the one about adultery. So let's, that'll be fun. And then we're going to, there's an unassuming book just sort of buried in the middle of, of the Hebrew Bible called Hosea.
Dan McClellan (3:57)
Hosea. We, we don't talk about it a lot. A lot of people don't know what's going on with Hosea, unless of course they're scholars of the Old Testament or the Hebrew Bible, in which case they know Hosea is a big deal. And we're going to talk about why Hosea is a big deal.
Dan Beecher (4:11)
Yeah, yeah. Beyond just how often it references sex work.
Dan McClellan (4:18)
But if Hosea was a person, it would come up to you at a party and say, I'm kind of a big deal. So.
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