**Patrick O'Shaughnessy** (0:00)
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Hello and welcome everyone. I'm Patrick O'Shaughnessy and this is Invest Like the Best. This show is an open-ended exploration of markets, ideas, stories and strategies that will help you better invest both your time and your money. Invest Like the Best is part of the Colossus family of podcasts and you can access all our podcasts including edited transcripts, show notes and other resources to keep learning at joincolossus.com.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:31)
Patrick O'Shaughnessy is the CEO of O'Shaughnessy Asset Management. All opinions expressed by Patrick and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of O'Shaughnessy Asset Management. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.
Clients of O'Shaughnessy Asset Management may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast.
**Patrick O'Shaughnessy** (3:10)
The intro music you just heard is from my guest today, Suzanne Ciani, an early pioneer of electronic music dating back to the 1970s.
As a five-time Grammy nominated composer, Suzanne's music can be heard on her solo albums, as well as many films, games and countless commercials. Many have argued her Coca-Cola, pop and pour changed the sound of advertising forever. During our conversation, we discussed what it means to be an artist, how to evolve away from the need for approval and validation, and the importance of mentors during the creative process. While many of our guests strive to be lifelong learners, Suzanne seems to take this a step further as a lifelong learner and lifelong creator. I hope you enjoy my conversation with Suzanne Ciani.
Suzanne, I've been so looking forward to this conversation since I first came across your work just a few weeks ago, actually, I'm a huge music junkie, even bigger electronic music junkie, and you've been a pioneer in this space your whole career. I thought an interesting on-ramp for our conversation would be to ask what the earliest moment in your music career specifically do you think of as a proud moment where you did something that you look back on with pride?
**Suzanne Ciani** (4:19)
Oh my, I've had such a long history, that's a long looking back. I mean, the first thing that I was proud of probably as a child was, I mean, this has nothing to do with music.
**Patrick O'Shaughnessy** (4:31)
Bring it on.
**Suzanne Ciani** (4:32)
Okay, so I found in the backyard a bent old pan and the pan was not flat on the bottom.
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