Surgery Without an Incision (ft. Gianluca Torregrossa)

Ed Marx (0:00)

And what about advice for persons on the technical side? How to be more collaborative?

Gianluca Torregrossa (0:05)

We need to take this technique complexity and bring it down to something that is more feasible for a large majority of institution and surgeons. To do that, you need more technology. This is a pivotal time.

We need to create opportunities that are disruptive. Healthcare and healthcare leadership is in the need of disruptive. This is goes down to the right of being human.

SPEAKER_3 (0:34)

Welcome to DGTL Voices, where healthcare and life science leaders explore the real work behind transformation. This podcast is about people, leadership, and the conversations that move healthcare forward. Now, your host, Ed Marx.

Ed Marx (0:50)

Welcome to another edition of DGTL Voices. I'm wearing my Team USA hat for soccer, the World Cup is going on right now. Tonight, we play Belgium, hopefully everything goes well, just showing you the colors. What about you, Dr. Gianluca Torregrossa?

Are you a soccer, are you a football person?

Gianluca Torregrossa (1:07)

I mean, of course. Unfortunately, coming from Italy, this World Cup, I'm hiding myself. My national team didn't even qualify, what a shame.

Ed Marx (1:17)

I know, I was shocked actually, yeah, because Italy traditionally, historically, has had a pretty good team. And I'm really sorry not to see them at the World Cup.

Gianluca Torregrossa (1:26)

But don't you think a little bit that this is like a motif of this World Cup? You see all of these big name teams struggling against never knew countries. That tells you, number one, the game and competitors, the competition has become higher. A lot of people around the world are playing soccer to a very high level, like you can be Brazil, but you get beaten up by Norway. And it's pretty unexpected, but it's the reality of the current world.

Ed Marx (1:57)

Yeah, I love that, right? It's a great football is a great equalizer.

And I love it. It is such a international sport. I'm from Europe as well and from Germany originally. And yeah, I mean, we grew up. It's life in many parts of the world. And that's just part of your life. Your upbringing is football, for sure.

Gianluca Torregrossa (2:15)

Completely agree. I think that has a lot to do with the current life. You cannot anymore guarantee just because you have a name or a brand that you're going to be safe.

Ed Marx (2:24)

That's right. Yeah. So that's good. That's a great message for all of us, right? Is that we got to continue to stay on top for a game. We can't rest on our laurels, whether we belong to Emory, which is over here, or great other organizations like Cleveland Clinic or Mayo or what have you. So, yeah, it's cool. So I'm super excited to have you on.

We first met really just online. I watched you when you were at Mainline Health. And I have great interest in, obviously, the clinical work and the technology and the things that you're innovating on. We'll talk about that in a little bit. And so when I saw that you went to Cleveland Clinic, I was like, oh my gosh, I have to have you as a guest. But Gian, the most important question we have for our entire time together, other than football, is what songs are on your playlist? Like, what kind of music do you listen to?

Gianluca Torregrossa (3:07)

Ed, I love that you start your podcast with music. I love it, because I think that already, and I'm listening to your podcast. I'm one of your listeners. Not all now. I have the great pleasure to be also host by you, but I'm one of your follower. And I love that you start with the music question. It has a lot of importance. And I can tell you, I have a playlist. And every time in my operating room, for the last 10 years, we listen to the same music.

And I adopted this system because, you know, nurses, they scrub out and scrub back in for lunch breaks. And for them, only by listening music, they can understand at which stage we are at the surgery. So when they are coming back, they know if there is certain music, it's not the time to talk with their colleagues about the summer camp of their kids. It's the time to enter on your tiptoes and just hit the ground running, because it's the central time of the surgery. So my playlist starts with Grunge 1990s, mostly per jam radio. That's what we start with and all of those songs around him. Then central time is Moby, DJ, 1990s, again, early 2000s. And then we finish with a combination that sometimes is back again to Grunge 1990s. Sometimes we finish with Pink Floyd.