Summer S’pouses Episode 4: Liza Powel O'Brien

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (0:03)
Hi, my name is Liza Powel O'Brien, and I feel so many things about being Conan O'Brien's spouse.

**Conan O'Brien** (0:16)
Oh, this is going to be good.

**Matt Gourley** (0:20)
Summer S'pouses with Conan O'Brien, Sona Mufsessian and Matt Gourley, and Liza Powel O'Brien, Tak Baroyan and Amanda Lund.

**Conan O'Brien** (0:34)
Well, welcome to Summer S'pouses, the game show, where the spouses of the three idiots that do this podcast come in, and today's special guest, Liza Powel O'Brien. I thought I'd just start by saying, first of all, thank you, Liza, for coming in. You're welcome.
I don't know if this was your favorite thing to do, but you were very sweet to say yes, you do it. We were just talking, I think it was the first episode, we were talking about last names because Amanda. Lund. Lund, yes, but Amanda took Gourley initially, is that right?

**Matt Gourley** (1:13)
Well, she took it legally, but not publicly out of shame.

**Conan O'Brien** (1:16)
Right. Oh, okay. Well, this is a well-known thing Liza and I talked about because you have such a beautiful last name and a very cool last, Powel is such a cool last name.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (1:25)
I think, I never thought so growing up.

**Conan O'Brien** (1:27)
The 1L. The 1L, the Powell with the 1L and how it, and because I'm a history buff and how it goes back to, you know, revolutionary days.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (1:36)
I will tell you, it has definitely been misheard or maybe not misheard as Bowel. So that's what I think of all the time now when I'm introducing myself.

**Conan O'Brien** (1:44)
Well, when I first, when we first met.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (1:46)
So that is a beautiful thing.

**Conan O'Brien** (1:48)
When I first met, I thought you said Bowel, and I was like, I am in.
Yes.
It's one of my favorite topics. And then when I found out it was Powell, I was really bummed out. No, but you have, it's just a really, you know, beautiful name. And then I got to know all the Powels who are really cool people. But I remembered feeling a little bit like, oh, because I've never been a huge fan of my last name, just because it's so generic, kind of just Irish name. And so we've, you know, we've talked about maybe I should just switch to Conan Powell. Oh, you know.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (2:24)
Really? Well, he's being very kind to me because I said when he was complaining about his name before we were right before we got married.

**Conan O'Brien** (2:31)
Yeah, we were engaged.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (2:32)
And I said, well, you can always take my name. And it didn't go over.

**Conan O'Brien** (2:37)
I know.

**Sona Movsesian** (2:38)
Wait, you're making it seem like you're like, yeah, I was toying with it for a bit.

**Conan O'Brien** (2:41)
I wasn't toying it for a second.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (2:43)
No, no, it did not sit right.

**Conan O'Brien** (2:45)
Well, the Conan O'Brien brand had been built. Correct. That's like, we're going to change McDonald's?

**Matt Gourley** (2:51)
That's the problem is the Conan O'Brien brand had been built.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (2:54)
But I was like privately, ala Amanda Gourley, who no one knows as Amanda Gourley, could have changed it privately. Okay.

**Conan O'Brien** (3:03)
You want to still do that?

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (3:04)
No, that's fine.

**Conan O'Brien** (3:05)
At this point, no more paperwork.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:07)
I don't want you to have it.

**Sona Movsesian** (3:10)
You're not worthy of it.

**Conan O'Brien** (3:12)
Now that you've actually, now after 25 years, you're like, no.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (3:17)
We gave it to both our kids, that's funny. In addition to yours.

**Conan O'Brien** (3:21)
Yeah, no, it's all good. But, well, this is, I mean, you're free to, you know, maybe I should step out of this?

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (3:29)
I'm wondering if you should leave. Like, I was wondering why you guys.

**Conan O'Brien** (3:32)
Oh, that's interesting. Oh, do you want me to go?

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (3:34)
Like, that's a better game show.

**Sona Movsesian** (3:37)
It's true.

**Conan O'Brien** (3:38)
But, you know, we can do both ways. Well, you know, I clearly can't lead this conversation any more than I can lead a marriage or participate meaningfully in a marriage.

**Sona Movsesian** (3:50)
Keep going, keep going.

**Conan O'Brien** (3:52)
You're doing well.

**Sona Movsesian** (3:52)
What is this perspective?

**Conan O'Brien** (3:54)
Let's just say, you know, there's some, I'm problematic around the home.

**Liza Powel O'Brien** (4:00)
Is it your bits?

**Conan O'Brien** (4:01)