Stop Worrying About What People Think Of You | AMA Vol. 12 with Dr. Michael Gervais

Michael Gervais (0:00)

This is a moment for people to recognize that they're not alone in the success of worry about what other people think of them. And there's a path forward.

Welcome back, or welcome to another Ask Me Anything on Finding Mastery. I'm your host, Dr. Michael Gervais, by trade and training, a high-performance psychologist. And the purpose behind these conversations, behind these AMAs, is to hear from you, to explore the topics and questions that you've been wrestling with on your path to becoming. So the goal is to expand on the themes and lessons and best practices that we've discussed on the Finding Mastery podcast, in order to make them even more applicable to your own life.

So we're back with our favorite co-host, O'Neill Sespedes, and today we've got something special for you. As many of you know, in November of 2023, my new book, The First Rule of Mastery, Stop Worrying About What People Think of You, is coming out. And the response so far has been, it's been epic. So many people are already resonating with the topic. So in this AMA, we're going to explore your questions around the concept of FOPO, Fear of People's Opinions. So we dive into the challenges of being authentic in social settings, why even the best in the world struggle with FOPO, redefining success, how to bring more vibrance into your life, what it looks like to love yourself, and so much more. So with that, let's jump right into Vol. 12 of Finding Mastery's Ask Me Anything.

All right, we're back. Another AMA.

O'Neill Cespedes (1:47)

We're back, Dr. Mike.

Michael Gervais (1:49)

How's it going?

O'Neill Cespedes (1:51)

You know, I'm feeling great. And do you know why I'm feeling great, Dr. Mike?

Michael Gervais (1:57)

Who can imagine? I don't know if I want to let my imagination run wild.

O'Neill Cespedes (2:01)

Well, I'm not going to allow your imagination to go wild. I'm going to tell you.

I got on my carol bike this morning.

Michael Gervais (2:07)

Oh, there we go.

O'Neill Cespedes (2:09)

Yeah, yeah. And I'm not going to lie, it blew my mind, especially the AI part. It was wild.

Michael Gervais (2:16)

I mean, seriously, isn't it like, it's like no other exercise that you've ever experienced, is it?

O'Neill Cespedes (2:22)

No, it's not. And, you know, I'm not going to lie, my ego got involved, and then I was like, okay, what is he talking about? I'm talking about two 20-second intervals.

Come on, I'm O'Neill, you know. I can do this all day, you know? But the way it was automatically like adjusting with the resistance.

Michael Gervais (2:39)

To your, like, right to the edge of your capacity.

O'Neill Cespedes (2:43)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was kind of mind-blowing for me. And I hate to say it was mind-blowing, but it was mind-blowing. And then, when you were talking about being gassed around five, six minutes, that's another thing that I was like, come on, I'm O'Neill. You know, I can perform at a high level.

I was feeling it.

Michael Gervais (3:01)

It's a legit full-on expression of the most intense workout you can get, and it's only two 20-second bouts.

O'Neill Cespedes (3:09)

Yeah, which made it really cool because I thought to myself, like, okay, on the days that I don't have much time to work out, I can just get this, get this in and boom, be gone.

Michael Gervais (3:17)

For cardio.

O'Neill Cespedes (3:18)

For cardio and feel complete. And feel complete. So it was really challenging. I think it was awesome.

Michael Gervais (3:23)

You know how I've been doing it is that I've been stacking it right after my workout. So I'll do some strength training or some mobility work. And then I don't have the type of life that I can get a 30, 45, 90 minute cardio session in. At one time, that was like, that was a standard. I don't have that lifestyle now.

So I'll get a quick hit of 35 minutes, some sort of strength and mobility, which I know somebody like you, that's not enough. But for me, I'm as good. And then I stack it right on top of it.

And now I've got this like complete package.

O'Neill Cespedes (3:56)

Hold up, hold up. So you mean to tell me you do it after you finish working out?

I've been doing it just by itself.

Michael Gervais (4:03)

Solo?

O'Neill Cespedes (4:04)

Yeah.

Michael Gervais (4:04)

Alright, level up.

O'Neill Cespedes (4:05)

But I'm sure I can. Oh, you think? I'm going to start stacking. If you're stacking, I'm stacking too. Yeah, right. Okay, good.

Michael Gervais (4:10)