Stop Overcomplicating Hermes Agent... Do This Instead!

Julian Goldie (0:00)

Today, we're going to talk about how to use Hermes Agent and structure AI agents, so you can actually automate anything that you want, but you don't overcomplicate it. And this is based on a question I had recently inside the AI Profit Boardroom. So we're going to get straight into answering that. So here's the question that we had.

It was a question about Hermes and setting up for a business. And basically, the question from the AI Profit Boardroom, which is a community where I answer questions like this every day, says, I want one AI employee that is a manager for one department of my business, and will be overseeing the work of other AI employees in that same department, right? And this is for a property management business. So they're going to have this structure repeated for different departments once they have one department dialed in. Now, they've created the profiles and given them their sole MD, user MD, memory MD, and set up honcho for memory and context. And they have ChatGPT codecs as the model, right? So basically, ChatGPT is the brain and the personality, which is the sole MD of Hermes has been set up, user MD, memory MD, and everything like this. And this is interesting to know because there's some details here, which I'll come on to in a second, which already will be super helpful for anyone using Hermes agent. So I see this as a common problem inside the group.

So after setting up, they gave the first task to a manager that includes to do some research, to figure out some stuff in order to make a decision on a tenant.

In just that, it came back with an error. They said something like the provider doesn't have enough tokens, essentially, right? So it sounds like basically what's happened here is they've set up Hermes agent to do this. This is where the problem is.

They set up Hermes agent to do some research, but they've had some issues with the setup of the tenant and also the model and everything else. And they said, at this point, I'm pretty scared. I've spent about three nights, 15 hours, selling it all up through trial and error. Really wanted to get it set up.

They said that they put this in a list of apps that were promised but didn't work. This is something I see all the time. By the way, people, if you're watching this, and you've probably had some ideas but never implemented it, this is super common, so don't worry about that at all. Now, you can see here, the biggest problem here is that they've spent a lot of time over the last couple of years just to set up systems like this.

They've used ChatGPT, Agent Mode, ChatGPT, Cloud, Cloud Cowork, Co-high-level AI Studio, and now Hermes. And the problem is they all take you down a rabbit hole where it feels like something is happening, but after spending a lot of time, nights, hours, what you get is the same thing you're able to build with ChatGPT 1.0. And hopefully that's not the case after you watch this and you see this tutorial. So let's get straight into this and figure out what the problem is here. So here's one thing that I will say, and I'll put some notes down here just to help you as much as I can.

And this is applicable for anyone watching. So the first thing that I see in this whole system is that it may be a little bit overcomplicated. So I know, for example, you feel like you've gone round and round in circles, and you've gone down a bit of a rabbit hole, spending a lot of time trying to build stuff. I would say at this point, it's probably too complicated than it needs to be. So I would try and simplify as much as you can, if possible. And the reason I say that is you probably don't need like a full department with an AI agent manager over top. You can build it. We've built something similar with, for example, paperclip. So it is possible to build, but do you need it? That is the question. And I would say depending on what you automate, what you want to build, I would say it's probably not relevant. So what I see a lot of people do with AI in general is they're at point A and they want to get to point B. But what most entrepreneurs do, most business owners do, is they go like this and they try and make things like too complicated and too complex than it needs to be, and they end up over here.