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Stay Curious with Debbie Allen and Phylicia Rashad

IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson

October 7, 2026

This week, multi-hyphenate sisters Debbie Allen and Phylicia Rashad join the show to discuss growing up in a supportive Houston household, the legacy of education in their family, and the HBCU experience at Howard University.

Speakers Michelle Obama, Phylicia Rashad, Debbie Allen, Craig Robinson, Dr. Kathleen Jordan

TopicsSelf-ImprovementEducationSociety & Culture

SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

Y'all are beautiful.

Michelle Obama (0:01)

Aging gracefully, beautifully, elegantly, untouched, unpooled, unplugged, unfilled.

Phylicia Rashad (0:12)

Untouched, unplugged, unsculpted.

Michelle Obama (0:13)

You are the best.

Debbie Allen (0:15)

That's the best analogy I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_1 (0:19)

I love that.

Debbie Allen (0:20)

Please put that in so I can copy that again. That needs to be on a T-shirt somewhere.

Michelle Obama (0:30)

This episode is brought to you by our sponsor, Midi Health.

Craig Robinson (0:36)

Well, look who's here.

Michelle Obama (0:38)

How are you? I have not seen you in a while.

Craig Robinson (0:42)

I know.

Michelle Obama (0:43)

I know. And before we really begin, everybody noticed that Craig is sporting some rose-colored glasses. It's like, what do you... Let's see. We have to explain to our audience what's going on.

Craig Robinson (0:58)

You know, when Two Chains was on, he had those yellow glasses, and I was like, I want to be cool, like Two Chains.

Michelle Obama (1:04)

Well, you need some chains, too.

SPEAKER_5 (1:06)

I know. You just got the glasses.

You didn't get the chains.

Michelle Obama (1:08)

No, no.

Craig Robinson (1:09)

So what happened, folks, is I have been having the stye problem with my eye.

SPEAKER_5 (1:14)

Yeah.

Michelle Obama (1:15)

And y'all don't want to see it.

Craig Robinson (1:17)

I've been more self-conscious about it than anyone else. My wife was like, you can't go do the show like that. Why don't you go get some sunglasses?

Michelle Obama (1:25)

I'm glad you got glasses on. I mean, that stye would be like another host.

Craig Robinson (1:29)

Listen, I have gotten so-

Michelle Obama (1:30)

It's like welcome to IMO with Craig, Michelle and the stye.

Craig Robinson (1:37)

That's mean.

Michelle Obama (1:42)

You're doing good beside Mr. Stye?

Craig Robinson (1:45)

I'm doing well. I feel good. We've had a great summer.

Michelle Obama (1:50)

You have two grown men in high school, IMO listeners.

Craig Robinson (1:56)

Two adults and then now two high schoolers.

Michelle Obama (2:00)

The boys are in high school, both of them.

Craig Robinson (2:03)

I know.

Michelle Obama (2:03)

Large and in charge.

Craig Robinson (2:05)

I know. Tall and-

Michelle Obama (2:07)

Handsome.

Craig Robinson (2:08)

Yeah, and they're doing stuff.

Michelle Obama (2:09)

Austin's sporting his twist, which Malia loved in the family chat. She was like, way to rock the twist. Because when Malia was 10, 11, 8, 9, she wore a twist. They look alike, too, with him in those twists.

Craig Robinson (2:26)

They look alike with the twist, but you know what's next up.

Michelle Obama (2:29)

What?

Craig Robinson (2:30)

Yes, go ahead, say it.

Michelle Obama (2:31)

Earring?

Craig Robinson (2:32)

Yes. That's next on the agenda.

SPEAKER_5 (2:35)

Hey, is that the shear?

Craig Robinson (2:37)

I'm stalling.

Phylicia Rashad (2:37)

What are we stalling for?

SPEAKER_5 (2:38)

I don't know. What do we think is going to happen?

Craig Robinson (2:42)

I figure if anybody, any male should get an earring, it should be me before them.

Michelle Obama (2:47)

So why don't you do a joint piercing? Hey, yeah, IMO listeners, joint piercing, joint piercing, joint piercing. You get a little diamond stud to go with your rose-colored, sty-covered glasses.

You'd be killing it.

Craig Robinson (3:02)

You're very funny. Very funny.

Michelle Obama (3:06)

We, oh my gosh, Craig is going to do a proper official introduction because our two guests are the queens of the queens of all the queens. And they deserve a complete proper introduction with Craig is going to look at and read thoroughly because we don't want to leave anything out.

Craig Robinson (3:25)

And they should know there was a lot of discussion about what we should put on there. They're so accomplished, so forgive us if we haven't put everything in there.

Phylicia Rashad (3:35)

It was a fight.

Craig Robinson (3:36)

It was a fight in the production meetings.

Michelle Obama (3:38)

Get it done.

Phylicia Rashad (3:39)

Focus.

Craig Robinson (3:40)

So first, Phylicia Rashad.

Michelle Obama (3:42)

Did you all hear that? It's Phylicia Rashad.

Craig Robinson (3:48)

Is an accomplished actor and stage director.

Michelle Obama (3:51)

Let me amen to the whole introduction.

Craig Robinson (3:53)

Who became a household name, and I mean household name for her role as Clare Huxtable on the NBC sitcom.

Michelle Obama (4:01)

She raised us all.

Craig Robinson (4:03)

The Cosby Show. Not only raised us all, but gave such great examples of parenthood.

I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_5 (4:11)

Okay, finish. Finish.

Craig Robinson (4:12)

I got goosebumps. It's hot in here. She has also appeared in the Gilded Age, This Is Us, and Empire, among other popular television shows. On stage, Phylicia has appeared in A Raisin in the Sun, Into the Woods, Dreamgirls, Gem of the Ocean, and The Wiz.

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