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Soul Recycling Station: The Truth I Learned After I Drowned (NDE)

JeffMara Podcast

October 9, 2026

Near-death experience guest 1998 is Stephen Killeen who had an NDE experience due to drowning.Stephen's Contactstephenkilleen@gmail.

Speakers Stephen Killeen, Jeff Mara

TopicsScience FictionFiction

Stephen Killeen (0:01)

And now, from Beyond Our Dimension, this is the Jeff Mara Podcast. Here's Jeff.

Jeff Mara (0:09)

Stephen, you've had NDE's, OBE's, and alien contact. Let's start from the beginning and go from there.

Stephen Killeen (0:19)

Hello, Jeff. So I have had OBE's starting off as a young boy, as a toddler, I was essentially a baby, and I would pop out of my body, and I would be hovering, looking down, usually. I would pop out, and this was involuntary. This was spontaneous. I would pop out of my body. I would be floating, hovering up.

I would say, I don't know, five feet, six, seven feet up at the ceiling. And I wouldn't feel anything. I wouldn't feel the ceiling. I would be out of my body looking down, and I would see myself laying in bed. And I knew it was me. I knew it wasn't a dream. I knew it was real. I had that knowing as it was happening. And then a lot of times, I would look down to the foot of my bed towards the closet wall, and I would see these entities. It'd usually be two at a time, looking my direction, watching me. And I looked upon them as watchers. They didn't really look human.

The closest I would describe them to would be a gray alien.

But I didn't view them as alien. I just viewed them as these beings or entities. I didn't have a name for them. I didn't know as a child the names of different aliens, entities. I didn't have any of that information. So I wasn't contaminated in a sense by that, or biased by that. I just viewed them as these watchers that came to visit me. And I did view it as strange, but I didn't know if anyone else experienced that, or if it was just me.

Other times I'd have nightmares and see things, but I knew that was a dream. So I knew the difference early on between a dream and something that was really in my room physically there. And I figured I could only see it when I popped out a body. I never saw them when I was in my body, and they always looked the same. They were essentially, I don't know if they were the same beings or the same species, I think they were probably the same species. They might have been different ones visiting, or could have been the same two visiting, but it was always in pairs for some reason. It was always two at a time.

Jeff Mara (2:24)

Do you think they brought you out of your body?

Stephen Killeen (2:29)

That's a good question. I don't know for sure. I don't know if they were involved or if I spontaneously did that on my own and popped out. But I figure it might have been partially my spirit trying to do that because I was feeling maybe something in the room with me, and I could only see them with my spiritual eyes, not my human physical eyes. I think they're at a different frequency. And I think they're probably watching me still. Like, I think they might be in the room with me right now or with you or with possibly potentially with many of us or all of us. There might be that many of them where they are watching us just like a radio frequency or Wi-Fi. It's in the room with me. I can't see that. But those frequencies are here with my computer, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and everything hooked up with the internet and radio. It's right here in the room with me, these frequency bands. I can't see them in this body because my eyes are limited to a certain spectrum, a tiny spectrum of light, right? Just as yours are, everyone is. But out of body, it's like we can see more. We can see frequencies that our eyeballs can't.

We're not limited in the same way. So I suspect that maybe my spirit as a young boy was intuitive. I'm an intuitive being personality type where I just felt something. And maybe that's why it popped out. And I was like, oh, there, that's what it is.

They're here with me in the room with me in my bedroom.

And I saw them various times.

Jeff Mara (4:00)

Well, many people would say that we have guides with us, everyone. So do you think they're possibly your guides, even though they're not angelic looking?

Stephen Killeen (4:11)

They didn't feel that way to me. They felt like something studying me rather than helping me.

I would say they felt more sinister. I wasn't terrified or afraid. It didn't give me fear like a monster, but I don't think they were there to watch or help me. They weren't there to guide me. I think they were there to study and observe me like I was an experiment, basically. I had that sense as a young boy. And later on, when I was 7, 8, 10, I continued to see them, not just when I was 2, 3 years old as a toddler. I continued to see them right up until, I would say, my late teens, maybe 20 years old. And then I haven't had that experience since then.

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