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Sonja & Luann: Pirates, Palm Beach & Picking Up Men

Call Her Daddy

September 30, 2026

Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Sonja Morgan and Luann de Lesseps! Sonja and Luann look back on their wildest years on The Real Housewives of New York City and reflect on the friendship, lessons, and adventures that have brought them to their next chapter together, The Golden Life.

Speakers Alexandra Cooper, Luann de Lesseps, Sonja Tremont Morgan

TopicsComedy

Alexandra Cooper (0:11)

Sonja Morgan and Luann de Lesseps, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Luann de Lesseps (0:15)

Thank you for having us, Alex. It's our first time here, so we're so excited.

Alexandra Cooper (0:19)

I am so thrilled to have these two icons in the building with me. Okay, I was thinking about it. You guys changed reality television forever, for over a decade on Real Housewives. You're just so fun and chaotic. Off the cuff.

I cannot wait to talk with you guys today. We're going to talk reality TV, we're going to talk toaster ovens, we're going to talk pirates, we're going to get into it all. Cabralesque. Okay, tell me about the outfits. You guys clearly didn't get dressed together.

Luann de Lesseps (0:51)

No, we did not get dressed together. When I was looking at the podcast, I think I watched Andy and I watched a couple other people on the podcast. They were so casual. So I was like, you know, I'm going to wear a statement necklace and be comfy because I'm flying out tonight.

And I love that you've dressed for comfort.

Alexandra Cooper (1:06)

Thank you. Sonja, how did you pick your outfit?

Sonja Tremont Morgan (1:09)

I just decided I'd wear whatever was on the hotel floor. Oh.

SPEAKER_3 (1:14)

Here I am, fresh as a daisy.

Alexandra Cooper (1:18)

Okay.

Luann de Lesseps (1:18)

In sequence, looking fabulous.

Alexandra Cooper (1:20)

Looking so good. And you love a statement necklace, so we love that for you.

Okay. Your new show, The Golden Life, is coming out October 20th. I think I can speak for everyone when we say, thank God, thank God, thank God you're back. Can you tell me a little bit about this cast? Because obviously we are getting a lot of OG Rooney people back together. How did it come to be?

Sonja Tremont Morgan (1:45)

Well, Luann and I had been working on it for a few years, since we were surprisingly not doing our Life Story series any longer.

And we were meeting with different... Yeah, the one-offs weren't pulling it, you know? So we were always interviewing with different networks, and it was just timing and the money came together. So thank God, but thank E-network.

Luann de Lesseps (2:07)

Well, we've got a lot of life left to live. I mean, we did 20 years of the OG cast.

Alexandra Cooper (2:13)

For the OGs, did you guys have any say in the cast? Like...

Sonja Tremont Morgan (2:16)

Oh yeah. It started with me and Lu, right? Let's say that. We weren't sure if Ramona would join. Timing was very, very good for us with Ramona because she was not with her serious boyfriend any longer.

Alexandra Cooper (2:30)

Oh, and if the serious boyfriend, if they were to get...

Luann de Lesseps (2:32)

Well, how many cocktail parties can he go to? Okay.

Sonja Tremont Morgan (2:33)

Well, Ramona wasn't going to go on TV if she was still very serious. If Ramona was very seriously involved with a financier from New York, she wasn't really happy to go back on TV, but she's in between boyfriends, so she has us.

Alexandra Cooper (2:46)

Oh my God. This worked out perfectly.

Sonja Tremont Morgan (2:47)

Close before bros, babe.

Alexandra Cooper (2:49)

Well, more maybe because they broke up.

Luann de Lesseps (2:50)

Yeah, right. Yeah, you're right.

Sonja Tremont Morgan (2:52)

It was bro-boying.

Luann de Lesseps (2:52)

We don't speak to each other. It's just FOMO. Let's put it that way, right?

Alexandra Cooper (2:55)

And then maybe she's also like dump him for now, film, then get back with him.

Sonja Tremont Morgan (3:00)

I've heard people do that. I didn't do that for Love Hotel, so I skipped it.

Alexandra Cooper (3:05)

Okay. The show kind of follows you in Palm Beach, and we also have Later in the Hamptons. Sonja, what is the biggest difference between living in Palm Beach and New York?

Sonja Tremont Morgan (3:16)

Wardrobe.

Alexandra Cooper (3:17)

Tell me.

Sonja Tremont Morgan (3:18)

Well, they have men everywhere, right?

That's not hard for us. No, no, I would say wardrobe, because in Florida, you wear pink and green and white and very summery colors and florals. The Hamptons is a little more, it's like street wear.

Luann de Lesseps (3:33)

It's New York chic.

Sonja Tremont Morgan (3:34)

But linen, for sure.

Alexandra Cooper (3:37)

So we're not wearing this, obviously, in the Hamptons, would you wear this in Palm Beach?

Sonja Tremont Morgan (3:40)

Yes, but I wouldn't wear this in the Hamptons.

Luann de Lesseps (3:42)

You could wear it anywhere, Joanne, for breakfast. I mean, look at us.

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