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The Capital is Capital, what are you saying?

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The Capital is Capital.

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We have a great show for you today, folks.

**Jordi Hays** (0:18)
The market is up.

**John Coogan** (0:19)
The market is up, so I'm in a white suit.

**Jordi Hays** (0:21)
Jordi, why aren't you in a suit? I actually, so I moved into a Wander last night. Moved into a Wander last night, doing some work on the house and I botched the packing. So I am forced into this jacket despite it, despite it being green out there today.

**John Coogan** (0:39)
That happens. Well, over the weekend, I'm sure everyone was signing up for ramp.com. Time is money, say both, easy to use corporate cards, bail payments, accounting and a whole lot more, all in one place. No, everyone was probably glued to their phones over Popegate, Popegate, the debate over the Pope. We reacted to the Pope's post on Friday.

**Jordi Hays** (0:59)
Yeah. It was a great post.

**John Coogan** (1:01)
It was a great post, and the Pope, he's a poster. I like it. He posts almost every day, sometimes up to five times a day, and he's not stuck in one lane.

**Jordi Hays** (1:13)
He's got range.

**John Coogan** (1:13)
Yeah, he's got range. He's got range, that's right. He'll pray for if there's a natural disaster, he'll pray for that. He talks about business, talks about AI, talks about media. He talks about all sorts of stuff. It's a really great feat. He had a great post about media. What did he say about media? He said, the media cannot and must not separate itself from the destiny of truth. That hits.

**Jordi Hays** (1:41)
Does this mean he's a neo-factual media guy?

**John Coogan** (1:43)
I think so. I think he's one of us. Transparency of sources and ownership, accountability, quality, clarity, and objectivity are the keys to truly opening citizens' rights for all peoples.

**Jordi Hays** (1:59)
Wow.

**John Coogan** (1:59)
Makes sense. I like it a lot. He also was just talking about business generally. He said, the world needs honest and courageous entrepreneurs and communicators who care for the common good. We sometimes hear the saying, business is business. In reality, it is not so. No one is absorbed by an organization to the point of becoming a mere cog or a simple function, nor can there be true humanism without a critical sense, without the courage to ask questions, where are we going? For whom and for what are we working? How are we making the world a better place? Pretty, you know, this is the type of stuff you'd see on like a Pinterest board. It's like pretty generic, but it's hard to disagree with. Yeah, it's hard to disagree with. But it seemed like, I'm not exactly sure what happened, but it seemed like Mark Andreessen was disagreeing with one of the Pope's takes about AI. Specifically, in this post, the Pope said, technological innovation can be a form of participation in the divine act of creation. It carries an ethical and spiritual weight for every design choice expresses a vision of humanity. The Church therefore calls on all builders of AI to cultivate moral discernment as a fundamental part of their work to develop systems that reflect justice, solidarity, and genuine reverence for life. And when we reacted to this, we thought it was pretty good. We were joking around. We were having fun.
We were laughing about it and just kind of playing out, what if the Pope was one-shotted by AI? Or what if he was using too many M dashes? Was he the real Pope?

**Jordi Hays** (3:39)
Yeah, using AI to write the post.

**John Coogan** (3:41)
I mean, you might even assume that he has a team behind the stuff.

**Jordi Hays** (3:44)
I think it is generally healthy that the Pope is going to comment and provide some sort of guidance or his own framework for how we should think about developing AI. I think that seems healthy.

**John Coogan** (3:57)
You should get a re-stream. One live stream, 30 plus destinations. Multi-stream, reach your audience wherever they are. Ooh, I like the new stinger on the re-stream read. That's very cool.

**Jordi Hays** (4:07)
You're dropping the helmet.

**John Coogan** (4:08)
The steel man is incredible. So basically, the play-by-play here was Mark Andreessen quote posted that AI post with an image of Kat Stofel, who's the GQ features director, who went viral for interviewing Sydney Sweeney. And people were actually kind of confused on what that particular meme means in this context.