Shrouded in Mystery

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Dan McClellan (0:48)

I can imagine Egyptians being like, this is an unusual number of frogs.

Dan Beecher (0:53)

This feels excessive. This feels excessive.

Dan McClellan (0:56)

Did you leave the fridge open because we have...

Dan Beecher (0:59)

Honey, what are you making? Because there's frogs.

Dan McClellan (1:07)

Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:09)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:11)

And you are listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How go things today, Dan?

Dan Beecher (1:24)

Things go great. It's a beautiful day, and I just got back from a trip. I went and saw my mom in Canada, so that was nice, that was nice. Hi, mom.

Dan McClellan (1:36)

And swung by our nation's capital, or at least adjacent to our nation's capital, to attend a podcast convention.

Dan Beecher (1:44)

Yeah, I took pictures of the capital, but I never, I got, you know, I was in Virginia, I was in Maryland. I was never in DC. I don't think I was ever officially in DC. Is Reagan in DC? I don't know.

Dan McClellan (1:56)

No, I think it's in Virginia.

Dan Beecher (1:57)

I think it's in Virginia.

Dan McClellan (1:58)

Yeah.

Dan Beecher (1:59)

So I don't think I quite ever made it into DC. I flew over, though. Good views. You fly out into and out of Reagan, you get good views.

Dan McClellan (2:09)

Oh, it's such a gorgeous area. I love the East Coast, and particularly around the DC area. I grew up just on the other side of DC from where you were. A place called Gaithersburg or North Potomac. I think the name changed while I was living there, but I haven't been back there since. So we left in July of 1993

Dan Beecher (2:30)

Whoa!

Dan McClellan (2:30)

And yeah, so it's been 30 years since I've been back to the old stomping grounds. At some point, I'm going to get out there.

Dan Beecher (2:39)

Yeah, yeah, you should. All right, well, we got a show to do. So let's do that show. We've got a couple things we're going to do. We're going to do a chapter and verse, and I'm kind of excited about it because today is Plague Day.

Plague Day. We're going to do the Exodus Plagues. Don't skin Plague Day. That's right. That's important. You don't want skinny plagues. And then we're going to talk about the Shroud of Turin. That's also very exciting. And topical, I don't know, it shouldn't be topical, but it has reared its head again and has suddenly started to come back with a vengeance.

Dan McClellan (3:24)

And in an untimely way, and I'll explain why, it doesn't make any sense. But yeah, you reminded me, my wife and I try to go to a gym nearby whenever we can, which turns into like twice a month, some months. And then, you know, we go twice a week, other months. And we brought my 12 year old daughter a couple of times last month. And it was so funny, after the first day, we get back in the car and my 12 year old daughter knows nothing about gym culture, knows nothing about all this stuff. It's like, how come there are so many guys that are just gigantic with tiny little skinny legs? And I laughed for hours. It was so funny to me.

Dan Beecher (4:10)

Yeah, next, next, take her to a cycling event and she'll be able to comment on all the guys with enormous legs and tiny little upper bodies.

Dan McClellan (4:18)

Yep. It'd be like that, it'd do sometimes. So, our chapter and verse.

Dan Beecher (4:27)

Yeah, let's launch in. Let's do it. Chapter and verse. All right, so our first thing, we're in Exodus, and we are going to talk about the plagues of the ten, is it ten?