She's Here To Make Dogs (And Then Humans) Live Longer - EP 40 Celine Halioua

**Ashlee Vance** (0:00)
And then if you don't mind scooching that way down a little bit. And then you could see yourself.

**Celine Halioua** (0:08)
Make sure, okay, my hair looks good. Okay, the hair is optimal. Nobody's gonna think I can develop dog-loan-dravity drugs but my hair looks like shit, Ashlee.

**Ashlee Vance** (0:18)
And then, yeah, you can be comfy with the mic. They're pretty good, so.

**Celine Halioua** (0:21)
Cool.

**Ashlee Vance** (0:22)
Does that feel all right?

**Celine Halioua** (0:23)
That feels great. I was doing an interview with a guy who was a rapper the other day, and he was like this, because I guess that's how you rap, like the mic right there.

**Ashlee Vance** (0:32)
Right up. Yeah.

**Celine Halioua** (0:33)
Yeah. And I was like, oh.

**Ashlee Vance** (0:35)
I thought you were talking about like a job interview. I was like, who are you? What position are you? I heard this guy for.

**Celine Halioua** (0:41)
No, some like social media rapper dude, who like does freestyles. And one of our investors like brought him to an investor like Port Co. Offsite and had him like rap about our companies. It was actually the sickest thing ever. So he did a freestyle rap about loyal.

**Ashlee Vance** (0:57)
And did he like, he did them on the fly?

**Celine Halioua** (0:59)
Totally on the fly. Just like did a little interview and then asked me for like a couple of like technical words from developing drugs. And I was like, GMP and pathological aging. And he just like weaved it into a whole narrative.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:13)
So like that part of yours would be hard. The other part was probably like a welcome change over like a SaaS software.

**Celine Halioua** (1:21)
So I think so.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:22)
Dogs and humans should be a little more.

**Celine Halioua** (1:25)
Well, he was a cat person, so it was a little extra tough for him.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:28)
Okay, no, but I mean, at least you'd have something to hang on to as opposed to like.

**Celine Halioua** (1:33)
B2B SaaS.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:33)
Or some AI.

**Celine Halioua** (1:34)
Oh my God. I guess AI is a new like insult now. Like, oh, some AI rapper.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:41)
I saw you tweeting about some of that stuff.

**Celine Halioua** (1:44)
Shit's so stupid. I mean, look, AI is cool, but like there's more important things.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:49)
They're all right. Well, we'll get to talk about them.

**Celine Halioua** (1:52)
Yeah.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:53)
So you ready?

**Celine Halioua** (1:54)
Fuck yeah.

**Ashlee Vance** (1:55)
Let's do it. All right. Celine Halioua, thank you for coming to the studio.

**Celine Halioua** (2:16)
Ashlee Vance, thank you for having me.

**Ashlee Vance** (2:18)
You have six names, right?

**Celine Halioua** (2:20)
Yes.

**Ashlee Vance** (2:20)
Do you wanna do them all?

**Celine Halioua** (2:21)
Let's do it. Celine Lea, Gerda Juliette, Holly Wahabold.

**Ashlee Vance** (2:26)
Okay, and are there hyphens in there?

**Celine Halioua** (2:28)
Hyphens, I have three hyphens.

**Ashlee Vance** (2:30)
And what is, your dad's German, your mom's from Ethiopia.

**Celine Halioua** (2:34)
Morocco.

**Ashlee Vance** (2:34)
Morocco, okay. And then, I mean, where are the hyphens all? How do we figure this out?

**Celine Halioua** (2:39)
So, the funny story is my parents did not intend to have me at all. And I don't even know if they thought they could still have kids. My mom had me at like 43 or 44 And I was like the only kid on either side. And they were just like, oh my God, this is our last chance to be immortalized. And so, everyone in the family wanted their name incorporated into my name. And so, all the names are in my name. Lea is my grandma. Celine is one of my grandmas. Lea was, I think, another grandma. Gerda is a grandma on my father's side. Juliette is my mom's sister. Halioua is my mom's last name. Hobbold is my dad's last name.

**Ashlee Vance** (3:19)
That feels like greedy. I guess it's nice.

**Celine Halioua** (3:22)
I mean, no. I mean, I'm from the generation of Scantrons. And so, having to Scantron in my name, oh my God.

**Ashlee Vance** (3:30)
Yeah. I mean, you couldn't even fit. No.

**Celine Halioua** (3:34)
No, I couldn't spell my name for a long time.

**Ashlee Vance** (3:35)
So, you just get as far as you could go.

**Celine Halioua** (3:38)
Yeah. All my IDs have different versions and combinations, which gets you in trouble because you can always buy a ticket on one form, but then it's incorrect on the other form.

**Ashlee Vance** (3:48)