She Writes Strangers’ Books With AI. They Pay Her $20K Each. - Ep. #352

Chris Koerner (0:00)

Meet Jamie from Florida. She is afraid of flying, but she still flew all the way here to Texas just because she had to tell me her story. Not long ago, her husband, who's a real estate agent, had a book idea. He typed it into chat GBT and by two in the morning had an entire book written. And when he told her, she said, hmm, there's a business there. So today her business is writing books for people who can't write. And yes, she uses AI to do it and she tells them she uses AI to do it. These are retirees, business owners and a random mortgage broker that had an idea for a book about aliens. They pay her $22,250 for these AI written books. In a few minutes, we're going to talk about why she teaches free classes at the library and how she actually makes a lot of money from them. Halfway through this, we're going to talk about the one thing that AI still cannot write well, which is why people pay her. And at the very end, we'll talk about the exact prompt that she uses to win clients from a list that only cost her $125 a year. And what that list is. Please enjoy.

By the end of this episode, will people have enough knowledge to go out within 30 days and find their first ghostwriting client?

Jamie Engle (1:07)

Absolutely. I think through just reaching out to people that you know in your circle, Facebook, LinkedIn, I find a lot of leads on LinkedIn, or just going to local business owners that you might know and say, opening this business, I'd love to help you tell your story as a business owner. Could I guinea pig you for my ghostwriting business? And people, yeah, sure, let's go.

Chris Koerner (1:31)

Yeah, it's like if you're an expert, great. If you're not, great. Because people want to be guinea pigged, is what you're saying.

Jamie Engle (1:37)

Yeah, I mean, it's just own it. Just own it and just ask because somebody is out there and somebody has, you'd be surprised. And they're like, actually, you know, I have this story that's been with me since high school. And so it's fun.

Chris Koerner (1:49)

That's awesome. Well, why don't you tell me what you do?

Jamie Engle (1:52)

Okay. So I'm a novelist and a screenwriter. And most of my job as a screenwriter is waiting. Okay. And so I was kind of didn't want to just sit around waiting for other people to determine my career. And so I've been, I was messing around with AI and I just found that it was really fun to use to develop.

In fact, my husband kind of sparked it because he had this idea. He's not a writer. He's a real estate agent. But he had this idea. And so he put it into chat and then chat gave him a chapter, like a really bad chapter, but a chapter.

And then he said that he was so excited that he did the next one. And then at 2 a.m., he had a whole book done. And I'm like, oh, that's so cool. That sounds like a business. Like that sounds like, you know, every. So what I created was a company where every Friday, I drop a chapter in your inbox and then every Tuesday, you send me back the changes. And so we go back and forth and it's collaborative. And it's for people who have ideas, but no idea how to write.

Chris Koerner (2:53)

Okay. So you are. So you send a like, what kind of a chapter do you send to people?

Jamie Engle (2:58)

So we do like an initial development because we have to figure out what the story is about, the characters, the settings, all the things.

Chris Koerner (3:03)

So people come to you and they want to write a book.

Okay. And do they know that you're using AI to get help?

Jamie Engle (3:09)

Yes and no. I mean, I do mention it. And the people that care, we have a little deeper conversation. People that don't care, they don't care. Okay. So I let them know that I pay monthly, it's on my PC, I'm not in the cloud.

But yeah, when they read the first chapter, they're hooked. They're like, this is amazing because it doesn't sound like AI.

Chris Koerner (3:31)

Okay. So if I'm a potential customer, I come to you and say, Jamie, I want to write a book about what are some average topics that people want to write about?

Jamie Engle (3:38)

So my first client was a mortgage broker in Nevada, and he had this idea of an alien conspiracy with the current administration, but renamed and just finding on the dark side of the moon these alien artifacts.