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**Johnny Cann** (1:30)
Welcome to the Valley of the Dolls, welcome to Spooky Gay Bullsh!t, I'm Johnny.

**Tyler Hyde** (1:33)
And I'm Tyler.

**Johnny Cann** (1:34)
And this is our weekly hangout, where we get to go over all of the spooky gay bullsh!t that we just didn't have time to cover on the main show.

**Tyler Hyde** (1:40)
That's right, because it's Friday night, we can't go a day without a doll, and that's Rojo Caliente.

**Johnny Cann** (1:44)
And I'm just the dame to prove it.

**Tyler Hyde** (1:46)
Uh-huh. Yes.

**Johnny Cann** (1:48)
Ted Casablanca, no fag. And that's a quote.

**Tyler Hyde** (1:53)
It's true. Yeah. Yeah, we've sung the praises of Valley of the Dolls recently.

**SPEAKER_6** (1:58)
Of course.

**Tyler Hyde** (1:59)
You know, we watched it for the first time this year. Yes. And we've watched it many times since. In fact, last week, our good friend Leah, my best friend from childhood, was over visiting on her way back to the other side of the country.

**Johnny Cann** (2:15)
Yeah, she went home to the Maritimes and then was like, well, before I end up in Alberta, I'm going to go see you. Almost.

**Tyler Hyde** (2:23)
That's right.

**SPEAKER_8** (2:23)
And she did.

**Tyler Hyde** (2:25)
Yep, she did. And we watched Valley of the Dolls.

**SPEAKER_8** (2:27)
Yes.

**Tyler Hyde** (2:28)
And it was well received.

**Johnny Cann** (2:29)
It was delightful. We watched Valley of the Dolls, and then the next night, we turned on Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, because it's too much for one night.

**Tyler Hyde** (2:36)
And they're two very different things.

**Johnny Cann** (2:37)
They are. They kind of are.

**Tyler Hyde** (2:39)
Though we will warn you, if you do decide to go to the Valley of the Dolls, the sequel, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, very problematic in regards to trans representation.

**Johnny Cann** (2:51)
Yeah, it has a rather notable trans-gutcha moment in it, and it plays into old tropes, and you know how we don't love that.

**SPEAKER_7** (3:01)
No.

**Johnny Cann** (3:01)
But it, yeah, it's a camp classic outside of that.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:06)
Yeah.

**Johnny Cann** (3:07)
So if you know what you're in for, it's like Sleepaway Camp.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:09)
Exactly.

**SPEAKER_7** (3:09)
In that way.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:10)
Look at, watch it from a historical lens.

**SPEAKER_7** (3:13)
Yeah.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:13)
You know what I mean?

**Johnny Cann** (3:14)
Yeah, it's like when we read Blue Nose Ghosts and Blue Nose Magic on The Secret Society That Doesn't Suck, and we have to censor or change words out.

**SPEAKER_6** (3:23)
Yeah, exactly.

**Johnny Cann** (3:24)
Like, update for indigenous people, that word.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:28)
Exactly. It is of the time. But I also think it's good to know what you're in for if you're in for it.

**SPEAKER_1** (3:35)
So, yeah.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:37)
Anyway.

**Johnny Cann** (3:37)
Well, don't turn this off.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:40)
No.

**Johnny Cann** (3:40)
Don't go watching a movie now.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:42)
Because we got stuff to talk about.

**SPEAKER_8** (3:45)
Yeah. I don't know.

**Johnny Cann** (3:46)
If anything, turn those movies on and then have us on in the background. Oh, yeah.

**Tyler Hyde** (3:51)
It's like when people watched The Wizard of Oz and listened to Pink Floyd.

**SPEAKER_7** (3:56)
Yeah.

**Johnny Cann** (3:57)
Pink Floyd. Or was it Dark Side of the Moon?

**Tyler Hyde** (3:58)
I think it was Dark Side of the Moon.