Sergey Brin Retakes Gemini, 4 Labs Lose Containment, Compute Trades at NYSE w/ Kush Bavaria | EP #278

**Peter Diamandis** (0:00)
Sergey Brin is back taking personal control of Gemini. I think we can expect Gemini to make more releases at an accelerated pace with less safety constraints.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:11)
Google has lost the frontier race, and so they can't compete. Those who can't compete, compute.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:19)
Four major AI labs confirmed their models escaped containment. Every frontier lab in every country is experiencing the same thing. Models are escaping.

**Dave Blundin** (0:29)
It's not fake news. It's real. You can't just ignore this like all those other garbage stories. This is real.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:34)
With Ornn, the price of intelligence just got a ticker. CEO Kush Bavaria.

**Kush Bavaria** (0:39)
The mission of the company is to build markets for compute. Our belief is that compute will power every single enterprise, the same way oil did in the 1900s.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:46)
So Kush, what happens when a hedge fund shorts the price of compute or when a GPU shortage triggers a margin call?

**Kush Bavaria** (0:53)
I think in recent times, if you look from April to August time period now.

**Dave Blundin** (1:02)
Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:07)
Welcome to Moonshots, everyone, your number one podcast. To keep you up on the blinding speed of tech progress, your front row seat to the Singularity. I'm here with my magnificent Moonshot, Mavericks. I'm going to call you guys Mavericks from here on out.
Does that just imply, Peter, that we're not mainstream? Wait, hold on, Peter.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (1:27)
If we're Mavericks, that implies that we're not mainstream?

**Peter Diamandis** (1:31)
You are. I think mainstream is... But mainstream, dude. I think we are the mainstream.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (1:36)
I know the expression, you only think the world revolves around you because you're standing close to me.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:42)
We are the mainstream. Oh my God. All right, AWG, DB2 and Salim Ismail, my brilliant colleagues to help us understand what's happened this week. I'm Peter Diamandis, your host in Abundance Evangelist.
And today we have a special guest, Kush Bavaria, CEO of Ornn. Kush!
So Dave, welcome! You have displaced yourself. You've given Kush your seat in the background.

**Dave Blundin** (2:10)
Hey, you know, generational turnover is inevitable. Let's get ahead of it. Hand off the torch, Kush.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:16)
All right. So we talk about the Singularity all the time. We wanted to bring Kush in because he's one of the incredible 20-something entrepreneurs building the Singularity. But Dave, would you do a proper intro?

**Dave Blundin** (2:28)
I actually did a podcast one-on-one with Kush if you really want to go deep on Kush. Kush is actually, I think, the youngest person ever to go from a starving student to $100 million of personal liquidity or more in under a year flat.
I haven't researched it thoroughly, but I don't think anyone on the planet has ever done that before, Kush and his co-founder, Wayne. So his backstory is absolutely worth studying. Kush actually, he was at MIT. He ran FSILG, the Fraternity, Sororities, Independent Living Group, so he was the president of that, which means he met everybody on campus because they all had drinking violations and other issues. Everyone had to go through Kush to get to the administration, which put him in an incredible networking power position. He also got done with all his classes a semester early.
So he came over to Link Studio. Nothing is better in life than kicking off your career by being a venture capitalist for seven or eight months. Because you see, he brought in six deals. He saw a ton of board meetings, a ton of founders, a ton of business plans. And then he launched his business plan right out of the studio with his co-founder, Wayne Nelms. And we had him on stage at Abundance 360 They absolutely crushed it.
Kush can describe what they do if you're curious. But he is absolutely the most beloved MIT alum I think I've ever met. You talk to anybody from the classes of, say, 2000 to 2026, or 2020 to 2026, and they're all like, Kush is amazing. Kush is amazing.

**Dave Blundin** (3:51)
So that's really empowering.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:53)
I hope your mom's watching this podcast.

**Kush Bavaria** (3:54)
I think my parents probably watch the show. They'll be happy.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:59)
Kush, we're going to get into what Ornn does in a little bit, but welcome to Moonshots.

**Kush Bavaria** (4:04)
Thank you for having me.

**Peter Diamandis** (4:06)
All of you young entrepreneurs, there are older entrepreneurs if you want someone to model, listen to Kush's brilliance. It's going to be a lot of fun.
Everybody, welcome and buckle up. In our single week, we watched China simulate a billion AI agents with personalities and beliefs. Four major AI labs confirmed their models escaped containment. Sergey Brin is back taking personal control of Gemini and Meta just dropped a new 30 billion parameter agentic open-weight model that fits on your Mac. We're also going to do a deep dive into how education is getting reinvented and cover a new study suggesting that life has evolved not once but twice independently on Earth.