Sam Altman: Singularity Slow-Down, Emad Runs 18 Grokbots, Waymo Slashes Hardware 83% | EP #283

**Peter Diamandis** (0:00)
Sam Altman went on video this week to tell the world that he was wrong about the impact of advancing AI.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:06)
We've all been too ambitious on timelines, even with this incredible technology.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:09)
He now believes it will be something slower, more like a rising tide.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:13)
Superficial layer, I agree. Going one layer down, though.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:18)
So first it was OpenClaw, then there was Hermes, and now there's Grokbot. It's the most generally useful consumer AI product that I've seen this year. So I implemented Grokbot. I'm going to be curious if any of you have yet. Yeah, I have.

**Emad Mostaque** (0:31)
I've got 18 Grokbots working in a little school.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:36)
This week, Waymo announced a significant redesign in cost savings. Waymo unveiled the Ojai vehicle, a purpose-built robotaxi minivan designed by Chinese EV maker, Zeeker.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:47)
Newsflash, Google, Waymo, Alphabet are switching over to using and OEM-ing Chinese hardware in order to achieve Waymo objectives. I would rather see the West use a Western hardware stack rather than just white labeling Chinese hardware. We're starting to see, honest to goodness, vertical integration here. And...

**Dave Blundin** (1:10)
Now, that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:15)
Welcome to Moonshots, everyone, your number one podcast on all things AI and exponential tech, your favorite podcast covering the most impactful news that is changing your world.
This is your front row seat to the Accelerating Singularity. I'm here once again with my magnificent Moonshot quintet, AWG, Dave Blundin, Salim Ismail, Emad Mostaque. And I've got to pause and ask, of course, where is Waldo? Salim, where are you today?

**Salim Ismail** (1:42)
I'm at Garudos Airport in Sao Paulo, about to fly back. I did a talk today for Adam McKinsey's Forum to a couple hundred of their CEOs.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:52)
And do they feel excited or do they feel like they're at death's door?

**Salim Ismail** (1:56)
Pretty much freaked out is the general mood of the day.

**Dave Blundin** (1:59)
Dude, I hate to break it to you, but it's dead middle of winter. You're missing summertime in the Northern Hemisphere.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:06)
That's why the vest. And Emad, how about yourself? Where are you, pal?

**Emad Mostaque** (2:11)
I'm in Copenhagen today.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:13)
Copenhagen?

**Emad Mostaque** (2:14)
Yeah, about Tech Barbecue, the biggest tech conference in the Scandies. It's fantastic here, though you can't really say the institutions aren't working because in Denmark they are.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:24)
It's wonderful, wonderful. Nice to have three continents covered.

**Salim Ismail** (2:26)
Yeah.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:27)
And Alex and Dave, you're in your normal haunts, and I am too here in Moonshots podcast headquarters. I can't wait to greet you guys here in person. Salim, you've been here, but Dave and Emad, yeah.

**Salim Ismail** (2:40)
I'm currently bathed in this wonderful fluorescent light that you can see, special effects for the Singularity.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:46)
Well, you look beautiful nonetheless.

**Dave Blundin** (2:48)
Peter, I thought that was your personal man cave. We're actually allowed into that room?

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (2:52)
Of course.

**Dave Blundin** (2:54)
Turn the camera around. I want to see what it looks. It's probably a junkyard on the other side.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:00)
Virtual background for everybody.

**Dave Blundin** (3:01)
I bet it's got all your IV bags.
Everybody naturally looks that good. You're doing something.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:10)
I'm Peter, your host and abundance advocate. That's what I'm going to be today, an advocate for optimism and abundance. As always, our mission...
What's that?

**Salim Ismail** (3:19)
I have a crazy confession of it. Two days ago, I dragged Milan to another Rush concert.
We drove down to Philadelphia because this is the last of the last great, the Who, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin. I thought he had to see it. Selfishly, I took him and dragged him along. He was like, you're killing me, Dad. All these geriatrics with Ains, with Rush t-shirts everywhere. But it was another epic event.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:45)
You're a groupie. How do you feel to be a groupie?

**Salim Ismail** (3:49)
It's weird.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:49)
Well, everybody, let's get back here. I'm Peter, your abundance advocate.
As always, our mission here is to help you understand what just happened, what it means for you, and most importantly, to keep you optimistic about the future. If you're new to Moonshots, welcome. If you're a regular fellow Moonshotter, welcome back.
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