**Patrick Bet-David** (0:12)
The future looks bright.
**SPEAKER_3** (0:14)
My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.
**SPEAKER_4** (0:20)
I think I've only said this before.
**Patrick Bet-David** (0:27)
Rupert Lowe, it's great to have you on the podcast.
**Rupert Lowe** (0:30)
I'm honored to be on your show, Patrick.
**Patrick Bet-David** (0:33)
The honor is truly mine. You know, when I saw the disturbing report that you wrote that went viral all over X, I don't know how many views, it got hundreds of millions of views.
And then I had to go through this report and read it and read the stories of Chloe and Sebastian and others and the solutions and the stats and then hear how many people on the market reacted to it negatively, calling it baloney, bogus, which we'll get into that as well. I love the fact that you put that together because not a lot of people want to risk doing that. So I applaud you for doing that. And so I definitely want to cover this, the inquiry that we have here. But before doing so, today, if I'm not mistaken, as a member of the parliament yourself in Britain, today is the 10-year anniversary of the Brexit referendum that happened 10 years ago. And UK voted 51-9 to 48-1.
And since then, you've had 10 different prime ministers, seven different prime ministers in 10 years. Keir Starmer just resigned a couple of days ago. I think when you and I were speaking on Sunday, the next day he resigned. So why do you think, one, he resigned? And why has UK had seven different prime ministers the last 10 years?
**Rupert Lowe** (1:49)
Well, as I think we discussed briefly when we spoke, which was an enjoyable call on Sunday evening, it's indicative of a sort of historical, what I call heavyweight country that is in decline. And I think where it's gone wrong is that Parliament, which basically is supposed to be populated by 650 MPs who represent the people, they are supposed to be omnipotent and they are supposed to effectively protect the interests of the British people and the British nation. But you have to lay the blame, I think, for what is happening at the door, arguably of Tony Blair largely, and his changes to our constitution and his introduction of various acts and laws which undermined our constitution, which as you know, had served us extremely well and delivered probably the highest trust society on earth with the best functioning parliament judiciary, civil service, where you had a vocational civil service that was basically required to deliver and it was in its DNA to deliver.
Obviously, a lot of the stuff emanated from Empire, from the fact that we as a small nation were administering a very large percentage of the globe. But I think what's happening and as you often see this throughout history is great nations wax and wane. And I think we are slowly waning.
And in answer to your question, I don't think we now have this functioning civil service. I think the Tony Blair's changes to our constitution, the introduction of the Human Rights Act, the introduction of a Supreme Court, which basically is now a quango and no longer reports to the Lord Chancellor, who basically was accountable for appointments in the past.
Also the Equality Act, which I think has damaged the relationship between people on the ground by basically turning it into a sort of legal fest and enriching idle parasitic lawyers at the expense of the rest of the population. So I think Tony Blair has a lot to blame, and I think he can see that himself.
Recently, the old fox came out himself trying to almost distance himself from his own reforms. So in answer to your question, I do think to have seven Prime Ministers or seven CEOs of a corporation, whatever it is, that is not a sign of a healthy country or economy. And I like continuity. In the businesses I run, I value continuity, I value loyalty, I value commitment to that company or that cause. And we certainly haven't got that. We've got the disintegration of the two-party system, which has let us down. Boris let us down in 2019 when he won an 80-seat majority and failed to deliver the reforms that are needed. And we've really gone from one disaster to another. And parliament, as I say, has been undermined. So we need to get parliament back. We need to, in my view, reverse devolution, which I thought was, it has been a terrible plan, which I think was part of the attempt to break up the most proud sovereign nation in Europe by the EU, which again, as you probably know, the foundations of the EU is actually founded on monopoly called the European Coal and Steel Community. So its genesis was a monopoly. And it was basically created by a bunch of largely Gramscian Marxists who, I think, realized they had to destroy the nation state if they were to create this European superpower that they've always intended to create. But obviously, in the vote in 2016, which you just alluded to, the British people threw a spanner in the works. And that has caused a lot of trouble. But suffice to say that despite the fact that the British people are supposed to be the bosses and they gave an instruction to the people who are serving them to deliver Brexit, it hasn't happened. And we haven't had the proper Brexit because Europe fears what would happen if Britain truly reformed itself, got rid of this welfare economy and actually started to create wealth and to follow some form of Austrian school economic model, which deregulated and genuinely invested long-term, encouraged the private sector, not the state. All the things that are necessary to create wealth, but Europe is petrified of that, Patrick, because Europe is a sclerotic, dying, monopolistic sort of block of countries who, as I say, are founded on a sort of socialist principle rather than a capitalist principle.
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