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Roundtable_025 - This Time, It's Actually Different

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October 6, 2026

We finally stopped being lazy and brought a guest onto the Roundtable. Max Hillebrand joins Steve, Jeff, and I to talk about the absolute madness happening in the freedom tech space right now.

Speakers Guy Swann, Max Hillebrand, Steve Simple, Jeff Swann

Guy Swann (0:00)

All right, guys, welcome back to Bitcoin Audible. We have got the Roundtable back, and I am actually doing my first version of the intro and outro of this show on my own app, which I have built for my editing workflow, which I've been working on for quite a while, and it has ParaCore running in the background, so I'm going to be syncing between devices. And I'm actually really excited to start playing around with this because I feel like it's in a place where maybe I can start showing it to other people. I've been building, I have a problem. I've been building like 10 apps at once instead of one app and getting it to the finish line.

Because the unlock of ParaCore and everything we're doing is literally in the fact that I can have all of my stuff connect together.

So for example, is my editing and workflow app that I'm working on right now, I'm looking at right now, saves a project or has a project with all of its files and all its recordings in a ParaDrive, in a ParaCore Drive, so that it saves immediately to my ParaDrive app and I can immediately share it with other people like my producer or whatever, which he's not on ParaDrive and I haven't created the space to join him and all of that stuff, but this is the purpose, right? Is to be able to connect all of this stuff together and I'm wildly excited because of how it works and a lot of things I get to play around with. But, and we talk a little bit about this in the episode today, but we have a special guest which I am very, very excited about because the last time I had Max Hillebrand on the show, we got into so many fascinating things and we talked a lot about Vibe Coding. They've been building so many different things and White Noise in particular, which I'm really interested in and I know Steve wanted to ask him about a bunch of that stuff as well. But we've got my brother, myself, good old simple Steve and Max Hillebrand as our guest. And I'm going to be trying to reach out and get additional and new guests on pretty regularly, at least to fill in the fourth spot if nothing else. Just because that was the intent of the show, but I'm too lazy. So that's why it didn't happen. We ended up with a crew that we liked and now we got a fourth slot open. So it forces us to reach out and start talking to people. So it should be exciting. Lots of fun conversations to come. Don't forget to check out the Bitbox. I did a video recently about the Dixence update that they did to their firmware. Just in case you got an older version, there's a phishing risk and a firmware risk if you're on a malicious computer. So just take note of that. Hardware wallets are supposed to protect you from evil computers. So that's the reason you want to be safe and make sure that you've plugged all the holes. There is a discount code right in the show notes with a special link. You can get the Nova 2, you can get the Bitbox Classic. Nova 2 is pretty dope and so let's get into the show.

This is the Roundtable. We are back with the good old crew, myself, my brother and Simple Steve and our very special guest, Max Hillebrand of Wasabi and White Noise and so many other cool things. This episode is this time, it's actually different.

Welcome back everybody. Good to have you. Good to have Steve, Jeff back and we finally may have rotating guests in our fourth slot, which was actually the original intent of the entire show was to have some rotating guests, but I'm too lazy to actually do that. And so we had a crew of four and we just kept doing the same thing every day or every month. Max Hillebrand, welcome. You're the first guest on the Roundtable, right?

Max Hillebrand (3:53)

I think I have a reason for why, because apparently I'm the only listener, right? And you were saying that like, hey, we'll do rotating guests. I'm like, well, I might as well.

Guy Swann (4:02)

You're never coming on this show again, you piece of shit.

Steve Simple (4:09)

Oh, my God, but welcome to the show, man. It's a good format, I like it. We'll review it.

Guy Swann (4:14)

Oh, it's fun. It's fun.

Steve Simple (4:15)

It's just shooting the shit.

Guy Swann (4:17)

Everybody, just the judgment, the judgment. Oh, my God, I'm really kind of glad the whole spam warship, it's kind of over. At least it's subsided for a little bit.

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