Richard Silberstein: Stranger & Stranger

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Welcome to Destiny. Now, here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

I was speaking to Jen Dayo, formerly a resident archaeologist, and she's going to join me. We're going to do a dual hosted podcast next week with an archaeologist who has developed theory on ancient musical techniques and their effects on consciousness. And from an archaeological point of view, which I thought was kind of cool. And I don't think we've ever in the history of Earth Ancients or Destiny, done a dual presentation where we have two hosts interacting with the guest. So I'm looking forward to that. Be sure to tune in for that program, which will be Saturday, October 24th. We've got the 17th coming up. So that's kind of fun. And I got to mention this to you. I was talking to her about the oral traditions of indigenous people.

And she agrees with me, as well as Paulette Steeves, who we've had on the show a couple of times, that there's ways to validate oral traditions when you get a story of a flood or a pandemic, or even star people, which is a topic we've broached before. And what you do to validate it is you get the oral traditions of multiple communities who have the same traditions, who have the same mythology.

And after you begin getting the details of it, which takes time because you got to go there and interview people, then it's validated. And this is what Dr. Steeves discovered with the age of people living in present day United States. It was the Clovis people up until 15,000 years ago. And then before that, it was 20,000 years ago. And that's pretty old. That's pretty, you know, far along. She has re-documented many of these locations to over 100,000 years ago. And that's mind-blowing. And that's a real problem for Orthodoxy because that's serious time differences from 20,000 to 100,000.

And some of these places go further than 100,000. Some of them go to 130,000, 150,000 years old.

So that's an issue. Now, where it comes into play, and I was mentioning this to Jen, is when you begin talking about established people like the Maya of Mexico, and their oral traditions of heavy, heavy flooding. Now, there's very little interviewing going on, because you have this colonial attitude by the universities, which means that they're not considered worthwhile interviewees. It's a form of racism, a form of biased behavior. And this is not necessarily purposeful. It's not somebody's going on going, you know, I don't want to deal with you because you're a Maya. It has to do with just indoctrinated attitudes that the universities instill in students. And so you're going out and you're excavating a site that's paid for by the university of whatever, Pennsylvania, Harvard, and Texas, whatever. And you're asking the permission of the Mexican government. And while the Mexicans are very, very negative and biased and prejudiced against the living Maya, why would you not go and speak with the local village that has lived near these ruins for hundreds if not thousands of years? Well, it's because they're not valid people anymore. They're savages, they're illiterate, and so forth and so on. Completely forgetting that these oral traditions are handed down for hundreds and hundreds of years. And so this is a problem. And I write about this in this upcoming book. And I'll definitely be reading. I have to get permission to read parts of chapters because I'm going to get in trouble if I start reading it before the book comes out. So hey, this is Cliff, your host of Destiny. And I got to say that this racism, this division between academia, their perception of the Maya, and the living Maya, the ones that are handed to us in books by Dr. Victor Manteo, Humbudsman, even Carlos Barreros, the elder who passed away a few years ago, was very sensitive to the repressed nature of even academia in Mexico. So, and this is an important point of understanding ancient Earth. If you are not interviewing the people who have been here for generations and have lived in these cities or nearby these cities for hundreds and hundreds of years, you're missing out on serious, serious data. Now, this is a real problem because we have the so-called experts. Examples are David Stewart, who wrote his new book called The Four Heavens, which is the latest and the greatest translated data from Stone Stele and what that has to say.

But, and this is what's really a challenge is, according to my native indigenous sources, they're missing 40 percent of content of each one of the hieroglyphs. Forty percent. The mias perception of the world is this. Human, nature, supernatural. Those three elements are part of how they perceive the world, and they're raised with that concept. So if you're just looking at a hieroglyph as the basic language, like, okay, a king said this about this other king, and they made peace, and it was at this date, at this time, and here, these are the individuals, the administrators who were present at this event. Well, perhaps the hieroglyphs also say that the weather was this way, the consciousness, the meditations that we all did connected us in this manner, and the wind gods and the earth beings surrounded us. Well, I would like to know something like that. I think that people forget that the Maya believe that most of the items that are around them, the trees, the rocks, the dirt, the water, all has some form of consciousness, which is pretty heavy.