Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 106: Courage Shoulders

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:06)
My Favorite Murder Hello and welcome to Rewind with Karen & Georgia.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:20)
That's right. This is the show where we recap our old early episodes with new case info and lots of old feelings.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:26)
Today we're rewinding to episode 106, which we name Courage Shoulders.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:31)
Did that hit you at all as familiar?

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:33)
No, you?

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:34)
Brand new.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:35)
I'm thinking stand up straight, Courage Shoulders?

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:38)
Courage Shoulders.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:39)
The fuck knows? Let's find out.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:40)
Let's find out today. This episode is from February 1st, 2018

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:45)
Let's listen to the intro of episode 106, Courage Shoulders.

**Georgia Hardstark** (0:49)
Courage Shoulders. And welcome to My Favorite Murder.

**Karen Kilgariff** (0:58)
The podcast that's asking everyone a question.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:03)
That it refuses to answer.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:04)
It refuses to answer or acknowledge.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:07)
Right. It just, it makes you ask the question, it walks away quickly.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:10)
Yeah. And then it's like, quit asking me so many questions, Mom.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:13)
Like you open this conversation, Dad.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:15)
With a question.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:16)
What's happening?

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:17)
And then you respond with a question of like, what's wrong with me? Mm-hmm.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:21)
Oh, you put it back on me?

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:22)
Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:22)
Oh, is that what you do?

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:23)
Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:24)
And just at the beginning of the conversation?

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:26)
Right. I didn't even, I was here eating cereal.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:29)
Yeah. I was loudly eating sugar corn puffs.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:33)
Right.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:35)
Compulsively.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:35)
What are you?

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:36)
Why do you have to come into my life? With chocolate milk?

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:39)
As with chocolate milk in it.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:40)
Have you done that before?

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:41)
No, but someone should.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:42)
That sounds insane.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:44)
It does.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:45)
It's your new McNuggetini.

**Karen Kilgariff** (1:48)
But I used to put spoonfuls of sugar on like, sugar cereals? No, not like on non-sugar cereals, which is disgusting.

**Georgia Hardstark** (1:57)
And it's the same. Oh, I know like, Rice Krispies with like four teaspoons of sugar.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:02)
And then the bottom is just like this sludgy, sugar crunchy milk mess.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:07)
And then suddenly cartoons are more beautiful.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:10)
Everything's more beautiful.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:11)
Everything's so much more beautiful.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:13)
Except for your teeth hurt.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:14)
Yeah, they eventually fall out.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:19)
What's going on? Hi, how are you?

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:20)
I'm really good. I'm I'm doing really good. I feel high energy. I'm eating a lot of ginseng.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:27)
Just chewing on ginseng.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:29)
Can I kick it off with this? I'm going against all former models of this show.
Skippers, pay attention. I'm going to do a hometown murder right now of interest. It was pulled by Stephen.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:42)
For Stephen.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:43)
About Stephen.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:44)
Great. Let's do it.

**Georgia Hardstark** (2:45)
Not in my backyard. Not with my Stephen. Okay.
The subject line is, BTK taught my husband how to tie knots.

**Karen Kilgariff** (2:52)
Oh my God. Oh no. One of those B, one of those letters is a knot. You know the B part? Bind?
Yeah.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:03)
He was kind of good at it.

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:05)
Let's hear about it. I mean, if anyone's going to teach you.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:08)
Hi ladies. Quick hometown murder for you. So my husband's scout master was the BTK killer.
And then she writes Dennis Radar. Now, I don't mean to make fun of you because I'm sure you're a true murderino, but and maybe you're you're you're what do you call autocorrect? Made it say Radar. But to read it as Dennis Radar makes me laugh. It sounds like it's like he's like one of the bosses and the Jetsons or something.

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:33)
I mean, it sounds like a new wave, like a new wave name. Like you're in a band and you change your last name to sound cool and new wavy.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:41)
Have you seen that really cute bass player, Dennis Radar?

**Karen Kilgariff** (3:45)
Gross.

**Georgia Hardstark** (3:46)
Sorry. Anyway, I'll say Radar from now on.
So he grew up only a few houses away from the Radar family outside Wichita, Kansas, also attending school with his children. Radar would take my husband's scout troop on overnight camping trips where he would often leave at some point with an excuse to get supplies, etc.