Q&A: Sonny's Cheesesteak, The Hottest Taco Stand, Vegas Plans, and Only One Thing To Say About James Beards

**Jordan Okun** (0:12)
If you love Mad Food, you'll understand the importance of being in the business of booze, Max.

**Max Shapiro** (0:17)
Am I not called Bubbles anymore?

**Jordan Okun** (0:20)
Why?

**Max Shapiro** (0:21)
You haven't said Bubbles in a while.

**Jordan Okun** (0:22)
Oh, would you like me to?

**Max Shapiro** (0:23)
You say, I'm Jordan, Bubbles is here.

**Jordan Okun** (0:25)
Did you miss it?

**Max Shapiro** (0:26)
Well, you can switch it up a little.

**Jordan Okun** (0:29)
All the California wine, all natural love, hit up Jumbo Time Wine for all of it. Right, Bubbles?

**Max Shapiro** (0:38)
That's right, Jordan.

**Jordan Okun** (0:40)
Give us the promo code one more time.

**Max Shapiro** (0:42)
Mad Jumbo.

**Jordan Okun** (0:43)
M-A-D-J-U-M-B-O?

**Max Shapiro** (0:47)
That's right.

**Jordan Okun** (0:48)
Okay, 20% off. Let's get to it because we have a Q&A.
Let's go. First question. I saw Chace Crawford cooking on TikTok. We need a Can Chace Cook episode. What is this?

**Max Shapiro** (1:03)
Chace.

**Jordan Okun** (1:04)
Is that right?

**Max Shapiro** (1:05)
So I haven't seen his TikTok cooking, but I know that he cooks all the time. He was sending me texts the other week because he bought a Gosney pizza oven and he's been making his own pizza dough from scratch, making pizzas. Like he's really into cooking and food.

**Jordan Okun** (1:25)
But he's not posting it on IG. He's only posting it on the TikTok.

**Max Shapiro** (1:30)
I guess.

**Jordan Okun** (1:30)
Is that how you say it? The TikTok?

**Max Shapiro** (1:32)
I'm not on the TikTok. I'm not on the TikTok. But I looked and I saw a couple dishes he made. And the thing that's stood out to me is my man knows how to hold a knife. I'm very proud of him.

**Jordan Okun** (1:44)
I do not know how to hold a knife.

**Max Shapiro** (1:45)
He knows how to hold a knife and the dishes look good. I mean, he made a whole roasted chicken with like a sesame, peanut, chili crunch, soy sauce.
Suas. And he did spaghetti and meatballs, which I don't like. I like spaghetti on its own, meatballs on its own. But his knife work looked good. The sauce game looked good.

**Jordan Okun** (2:10)
Why can't you enjoy something as comforting and as iconic as spaghetti and meatballs?

**Max Shapiro** (2:17)
I like both of those things separately.

**Jordan Okun** (2:22)
Because you don't want to cut the balls while you're...

**Max Shapiro** (2:28)
It's not a great eating experience.

**Jordan Okun** (2:30)
Spaghetti.

**Max Shapiro** (2:31)
I'd rather spaghetti with a meat sauce. I want the ball to be on its own.

**Jordan Okun** (2:34)
Why can't you just chop up the meatballs and then make the bolognese?

**Max Shapiro** (2:39)
What is this? Interactive eating?

**Jordan Okun** (2:41)
And why the hell is Chace not putting this on IG? I'm not on the TikTok.

**Max Shapiro** (2:46)
I don't know why he's not putting it on IG.

**Jordan Okun** (2:48)
You got to tell him, spread it across. If he's got the content, put it on the TikTok and then put it on IG.

**Max Shapiro** (2:54)
If you want to do a Can Chase Cook episode, I mean, my man's cooks.

**Jordan Okun** (2:58)
Maybe we do a Can Chase Cook versus Max episode.

**Max Shapiro** (3:02)
He would not like that.

**Jordan Okun** (3:03)
No? No. He doesn't want to get shown up.

**Max Shapiro** (3:06)
He would bow out. But no, but he makes things like short ribs and spaghetti meatballs, this chicken dish. He's been making pizza.
He's been fine tuning his pizza dough recipe.

**Jordan Okun** (3:16)
You know, he's got so many young fans. Maybe that's why he's only on the TikTok. They're all on the TikTok and the Snap, not the IG.

**Max Shapiro** (3:23)
The demo is broad, my man.

**Jordan Okun** (3:25)
Trust me. My little nieces love him. You know that. He's had to make multiple videos for them.

**Max Shapiro** (3:30)
But I'm sure some of your wife's friends also love him.

**Jordan Okun** (3:32)
Everyone loves him. I love Jay-Z Boy, too. Just get on the IG. Tell him to get on the IG. All right. So that's it.
Next. Have either of you eaten a dot cake yet, Max?

**Max Shapiro** (3:43)
Absolutely not. No, I have not.

**Jordan Okun** (3:45)
I have not either, unfortunately. I am going to New York soon. Maybe I'll wait in the two-hour line for a dot cake. Absolutely not. What are you fucking crazy?
I would go to Susie. Susie Cakes has been advertising like a make your own, a DIY version where they give you-