Q&A: LA Times Right & Weird on Lielle, Bad Sushi, Storing Booze, Illegal Ingredients, The Zoom Episode, Tokyo Talk
Mad Food
September 25, 2026
Jordan and Max answer audiences questions covering SoFi Stadium suite life, Jordan's son's dessert beating all Yom Kippur contenders, grocery store sushi, Mexico City plans, Max's weird storage issue, LA sesame dishes and the "Jordanador," Highland Park chewing, smuggling horse and birds, Tokyo...
Speakers Jordan Okun, Max Shapiro
Jordan Okun (0:04)
All right, Mad Food, I'm Jordan, Max is here and it's Q&A time. And the St. James is flowing within. The Concerta has taken effect. The Zip Bound is pumping. The psyllium husk is moving everything south.
Max Shapiro (0:16)
Very, very good.
Jordan Okun (0:17)
So let's get to it. I think that covers all the medications, right?
Max Shapiro (0:21)
Are you doing digestive enzymes?
Jordan Okun (0:23)
You know, I always forget to take those. Max gave me these enzymes.
Max Shapiro (0:26)
Every time you're going to eat, just take one.
Jordan Okun (0:30)
But what if I've already eaten in the day?
Max Shapiro (0:33)
Still take it.
Jordan Okun (0:33)
You still take it?
Max Shapiro (0:34)
Yeah, because it drops into the stomach, into the boyech, and it helps break things down.
Jordan Okun (0:41)
I'm also, I do take vitamin D. I was a little...
Max Shapiro (0:44)
You're low on the...
Jordan Okun (0:45)
Efficient.
Max Shapiro (0:45)
Yeah.
Jordan Okun (0:47)
Magnesium.
Very sexy opening to this, Q. It is.
Max Shapiro (0:52)
I feel sexual.
Jordan Okun (0:53)
All right, first, the big issue, all right? The big issue, the big question, but really just statements. Unfortunately, and it came in from numerous people through the Q&A box, DM, and texts from friends.
Unfortunately, it seems to be true that the sound on the newest Zoom podcast was actually better than what it usually is.
Max Shapiro (1:22)
Maybe it was a good thing I couldn't have come to the building, to the St. James Iced Tea Building, because we discovered that the Zoom audio is quite good.
Jordan Okun (1:32)
Inconceivable!
Max Shapiro (1:34)
Well, it's been conceived.
Jordan Okun (1:36)
How the... I don't understand.
Max Shapiro (1:40)
I also...
Jordan Okun (1:41)
I'm using the same microphone. I'm using the same microphone today and on all the other podcasts that I used on that Zoom. And even I have to agree. I did sound...
I hate to use the way it sounded better.
Max Shapiro (1:59)
Like I said earlier, maybe Zoom computes or compresses the audio a different way.
Jordan Okun (2:06)
Fucking Zoom.
My tongue. Not my rung.
Max Shapiro (2:11)
That's right.
Jordan Okun (2:12)
Someone in the Mad Food chat came at me. Someone tried to come at me and was like, you don't come at the king and try to make fun of me, and then you look like an idiot. Someone tried to say in the Mad Food chat that I'm making up this whole Madone vs.
Max Shapiro (2:30)
Marrone thing. They said no one knows what the hell you're talking about. And to correct this individual, who's a very nice guy, a lot of people know this.
Jordan Okun (2:42)
Yeah, this is a thing. This is a major thing. He was off.
Max Shapiro (2:45)
It's niche, but it's very well known.
Jordan Okun (2:48)
We were with Johnny last night. What is it? Johnny grows in Long Island.
Max Shapiro (2:52)
He goes full Madone.
Jordan Okun (2:54)
He was raised in an Italian American.
Max Shapiro (2:57)
Yeah.
Jordan Okun (2:58)
And he's a Madone?
Max Shapiro (2:59)
Full Madone.
Jordan Okun (3:00)
Right. See him, I would have guessed he was a Marrone, but he's a Madone.
Max Shapiro (3:07)
The way it flows off the tongue too is a little better.
Jordan Okun (3:10)
It is. The Madone.
Max Shapiro (3:12)
Marrone seems, it's harder to do.
Jordan Okun (3:17)
All right. So look, I guess I have to agree that the Zoom sounded pretty good, but the fact remains that this is already a better podcast. So if the audio is a little worse, I think the chemistry in-house together in the St. James building is just better. I think I'm more alive and with it. I get you.
Staring at Max's rose frame cupboard eye stye.
Max Shapiro (3:50)
I have a stye currently, guys. It comes about once a year since I've had the dog.
Jordan Okun (3:55)
You know, if you hadn't said that you have a stye, you have such colored frames that hide everything, I would have never noticed it. But now all I'm doing is staring at your stye. Yeah.
A psyllium husk in styes.
Max Shapiro (4:14)
Hey, man.
Jordan Okun (4:16)
What a beginning to the thought.
Max Shapiro (4:17)
You know.
Jordan Okun (4:18)
We're disgusting.
Max Shapiro (4:19)
I let the dog go to town on my face, and sometimes that tongue enters an eye.
Jordan Okun (4:27)
Max got all excited thinking he never had to come to Sherman Oaks again because the zoom sounded so good. Maybe this whole podcast needs to be reimagined now.
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