Q&A: Jersey vs. LA Pizza, The Hermon's Order, Food Apps, Acceptable Hot Dog Toppings, The New Pizzeria Sei artwork

Q&A: Jersey vs. LA Pizza, The Hermon's Order, Food Apps, Acceptable Hot Dog Toppings, The New Pizzeria Sei

Mad Food

July 24, 2026

Jordan was in Jersey eating pizza and has thoughts, what food apps does Max use and some advice for influencers, an exploration of hot dog toppings, Comfy vs.
Speakers: Jordan Okun, Max Shapiro
**Jordan Okun** (0:02)
All right, Mad Food, I'm Jordan, Max is here, and it's Q&A time, that's the best time. Very few times better than that in Mad Food world, isn't that right, Max?

**Max Shapiro** (0:10)
You know, some people seem to think that.

**Jordan Okun** (0:13)
Is it better than Jelly Belly time?

**Max Shapiro** (0:16)
I don't know, you tell me.

**Jordan Okun** (0:18)
You tell me, you're now a Jelly Belly expert?

**Max Shapiro** (0:22)
I'd rather Q&A than Jelly Belly.

**Jordan Okun** (0:24)
Okay, is it better than St. James Ice Tea time?

**Max Shapiro** (0:27)
Don't believe so.

**Jordan Okun** (0:28)
Nah, Q&A time, pretty good, pretty good, right? Is it better than escrow time? Max is dealing with a lot of escrows.

**Max Shapiro** (0:36)
It is, almost nothing is better than escrow time.

**Jordan Okun** (0:39)
That's right.

**Max Shapiro** (0:39)
You know what's better than escrow time? Closing time.

**Jordan Okun** (0:42)
Right, closing time, right. Closing time, money hits Max's bank account and all of the pain goes away. Look at that.

**Max Shapiro** (0:52)
So much of the pain.

**Jordan Okun** (0:53)
Look at that.

**Max Shapiro** (0:54)
Erased.

**Jordan Okun** (0:55)
Should I, should I write more songs? Yeah, I think so.

**Max Shapiro** (0:58)
Or just write a song?

**Jordan Okun** (1:00)
That was the first song I ever wrote right there.

**Max Shapiro** (1:02)
All these layoffs with Howard Stern Show.

**Jordan Okun** (1:04)
Can you believe it?

**Max Shapiro** (1:05)
You need to do, you need to do the parody song.

**Jordan Okun** (1:08)
He axed Benji Bronk.

**Max Shapiro** (1:11)
I'm totally good with that.

**Jordan Okun** (1:12)
Are you?

**Max Shapiro** (1:13)
Benji Bronk forever has annoyed me.

**Jordan Okun** (1:15)
What about Mehmet?

**Max Shapiro** (1:16)
He fired Mehmet.
I don't know what Mehmet ever did. And he also annoyed me. But Jonathan Blit, I don't like the firing of Blit.

**Jordan Okun** (1:24)
That's a big firing, funny guy.

**Max Shapiro** (1:25)
Yeah, yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (1:27)
Unc is rallying the Goose community to start a GoFundMe to take care of Blit and make sure he gets to all the summer shows.

**Max Shapiro** (1:36)
I mean, who's going to do embedded features on JD?

**Jordan Okun** (1:39)
All right. Well, RIP to those guys. Come to Mad Food.

**Max Shapiro** (1:45)
Right?

**Jordan Okun** (1:45)
Bronk. We have a lot of budget.

**Max Shapiro** (1:48)
Hell no. What the hell does he do? He's so weird.

**Jordan Okun** (1:50)
All right.
Let's get to it. All right. First up, forget New York. Does New Jersey have better pizza than LA? Jordan has been spending a lot of time there. Maybe, but probably not. Probably not. I mean, they have Raza.

**Max Shapiro** (2:06)
OK.

**Jordan Okun** (2:08)
Are you going to want to go to Raza on the next trip?

**Max Shapiro** (2:12)
Sure. I would love to try. Jersey City.

**Jordan Okun** (2:14)
The New York Times said it was the best pizza in New York, but it's in Jersey City.

**Max Shapiro** (2:19)
Sure. I mean, yeah, everyone raves, so I would love to try it.

**Jordan Okun** (2:22)
Jersey does not have the variety that LA has, but, I mean, look, if you love especially a thin and crispy pizza, I mean, Jersey pizza is for you. They just don't have the variety, so probably not. Probably not.

**Max Shapiro** (2:41)
Aren't the Sunnies guys from Jersey? I feel like they are. Are they?

**Jordan Okun** (2:45)
I mean, there's good, I mean, I believe you're right.
There's just not the variety and from what I have seen, there's just not as much pizza going on and it all kind of leans in the same direction. I went to a new spot with Uncle Ira, your favorite uncle.

**Max Shapiro** (3:04)
Well, yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (3:05)
Right?

**Max Shapiro** (3:05)
Well, yeah, my new favorite uncle.

**Jordan Okun** (3:07)
Do you have any uncles?

**Max Shapiro** (3:08)
I don't.

**Jordan Okun** (3:09)
Right, so he's your only uncle.

**Max Shapiro** (3:11)
Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (3:11)
All right, so Uncle Ira.

**Max Shapiro** (3:13)
Uncle Pines.

**Jordan Okun** (3:14)
That's right.

**Max Shapiro** (3:15)
How dare I? Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (3:17)
We went to Ralph's Pizza.

**Max Shapiro** (3:19)
OK.

**Jordan Okun** (3:20)
Which is which is by him in Nutley, New Jersey.

**Max Shapiro** (3:24)
It's a name.

**Jordan Okun** (3:25)
Delightful, crispy. But like they have like a it was like you walk in, it's like a shitty, great old school slice shop.
And I thought it was like a sit down thing. I got it. I was like, oh, God, OK, we're just getting slices or whole pies. But then they have like this like little side hallway. You go through, you push through, very nice sit down restaurant, White Table Claws. But and then you get the great pizza from the pizzeria there. And then they have like a varied red sauce menu.

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