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Q&A: Influencers vs. Food Critics, Does A Good Restaurant Have To Offer Coffee, At Home Cooking Tools, Did Jordan Break His Streak, Pre-Dinner Showers

Mad Food

October 14, 2026

Plus, tipping habits, perceived value restaurants, Sora Craft Kitchen is on the move, food cities to visit, cookware and tools curation, an investigation into an Infatuation personality, bringing seasonings to meals, the coffee test, owning a dry-ager, and random ass neighborhoods.

Speakers Jordan Okun, Max Shapiro

TopicsFoodArts

Jordan Okun (0:03)

All right, Mad Food, I'm Jordan, Max is here and it's Q&A time, so let's get right to it, shall we?

Max Shapiro (0:09)

Q&A time again.

Jordan Okun (0:11)

Again, yeah.

Max Shapiro (0:12)

People love asking questions.

Jordan Okun (0:14)

Honestly, I think the podcast needs to just become a Q&A podcast. I think that's how we win.

Max Shapiro (0:19)

That would make it pretty easy.

Jordan Okun (0:20)

I think that's how we win. Starting with a crazy one, I considered not even using it. Because the answer that I had to really come up with and really admit to myself is terrifying.

Max Shapiro (0:37)

This was not shared with me.

Jordan Okun (0:39)

No, it was not because this is something I have to deal with. This is something I have to confront. This is something about my life. Really?

The question.

I think I may have uncovered something historic. Jordan needs to be honest. On his health journey, has he started drinking any bottled protein shakes? Because if so, I think he can scratch, never consuming a glass of milk off his streaks list.

Max Shapiro (1:17)

Because it's whey protein? Is that the loophole?

Jordan Okun (1:22)

My God.

Max Shapiro (1:23)

What?

Jordan Okun (1:24)

They may have a point. These shakes, not only are they correct that I am drinking protein shakes, they are quite milky.

Max Shapiro (1:33)

I get it, but a glass of milk is very specific. Like actual milk poured into a glass for a different purpose.

Jordan Okun (1:41)

I need to lay the judgment down here. Now, I looked at the ones I've been drinking. A lot of times, I just consume things. I don't even look at the ingredient list.

So I'm drinking these Fair Life Core Power bottled protein shakes. You've seen these things? They're not bad. Vanilla, chocolate, the strawberry, quite delightful. Only in the summertime, of course, though, Max. I'm not drinking the strawberry. Can I drink the strawberries anymore?

Max Shapiro (2:08)

Well, you know, I don't believe that it is a natural strawberry.

Jordan Okun (2:15)

So, Lord help me. I look at this ingredient list when this question comes in, and sure enough, the first ingredient on there, which is, I think when they list ingredients, the first ingredient is the...

Max Shapiro (2:27)

It is. Milk powder?

Jordan Okun (2:30)

Worse.

Max Shapiro (2:31)

What?

Jordan Okun (2:33)

Literally, filtered, low fat, grade A milk.

Max Shapiro (2:38)

I get it, but that's not the only thing in this drink.

Jordan Okun (2:41)

I understand.

Max Shapiro (2:42)

So, a glass of milk...

Jordan Okun (2:44)

So, they don't have a point?

Max Shapiro (2:46)

Okay, in some way, they have a point, but a glass of milk is just a glass of milk. This is many things.

Jordan Okun (2:55)

Okay, so my never having a glass of milk streak is still intact?

Max Shapiro (3:02)

You've had a glass of milk with a bunch of other shit in it.

Jordan Okun (3:05)

Right, this is just like a milkshake.

Max Shapiro (3:09)

So, if a milkshake isn't you drinking a glass of milk because it has ice cream in it, then this isn't a glass of milk.

Jordan Okun (3:18)

Okay, great. Okay, so this person did not uncover, as they say, something historic.

Max Shapiro (3:24)

Oh, I like what they've done. This is great investigation, but it is not simply a glass of milk. When Jordan says glass of milk, it's just milk in a glass.

Jordan Okun (3:35)

Right. Okay. And yes, I've had a couple of milkshakes in my, you know, I haven't had many milkshakes in my life. That's not something I indulge in.

Max Shapiro (3:41)

It's not a glass of milk.

Jordan Okun (3:42)

But also not something I indulge in. But I've had those as well. Yes, I am drinking, and I never, I am drinking the bottle, the protein shakes.

Max Shapiro (3:53)

It's not a glass of milk.

Jordan Okun (3:54)

I'm drinking a lot of low fat milk apparently though.

Max Shapiro (3:57)

With other things.

Jordan Okun (3:58)

Really disgusting. I'm ashamed. But the streak is still intact. People out here trying to break my streaks. Yeah.

Someone gonna give me a laxative on a flight.

Max Shapiro (4:09)

Ooh. Be careful who you sit next to.

Jordan Okun (4:12)

It's a horrifying situation. No. I have still never had a glass of milk. But thank you. Next.

Matt Rodbard writes in.

Max Shapiro (4:25)

Oh, hey.

Jordan Okun (4:25)

Sora Craft Kitchen. What neighborhood should it hit next? Who will truly support it?

So Sora has clothes.

Max Shapiro (4:35)

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