Q&A: Bobby Flay Chicken Moves, Glass Diet Cokes, Paris Recs, The San Fran Plan

**Jordan Okun** (0:05)
Mad Food, I'm Jordudo, Bubbles is here. He likes when I call him Bubbles, he doesn't like his name anymore. I appreciate that. I've named you, I've named you, and I've named your dog.

**Max Shapiro** (0:15)
Well, he, okay.

**Jordan Okun** (0:18)
Jumbo Time Wine is the, what, did I not name your dog?

**Max Shapiro** (0:22)
His name is Oscar.

**Jordan Okun** (0:23)
Yeah, I understand, but you call him Hector sometimes. No, I don't. Yes, you do, I've heard it. And more importantly, everyone calls him Hector. Everyone. Except for you and KB.

**Max Shapiro** (0:32)
We call him.

**Jordan Okun** (0:33)
And that family up in Modesto. Jumbo Time Wine is the sponsor. Mad Jumbo is the promo code. 20% off is the discount. All the natural California wine you can handle. They got the Rosé. They got the Riesling. They got all the blends, the Pinot.
What else do they have?

**Max Shapiro** (0:52)
Sauvignon Blanc.

**Jordan Okun** (0:54)
The orange. What's that orange?

**Max Shapiro** (0:56)
It's a blend. It's a Riesling heavy blend.

**Jordan Okun** (0:59)
Right. Just get into the business of booze with Mad Food and Jumbo Time Wines. And we have more questions. The questions are unlimited.
Should we, this, should this, maybe we just do a Q&A podcast.

**Max Shapiro** (1:13)
Maybe.

**Jordan Okun** (1:14)
Forget the other episodes. Why are we do, it seems like the questions are endless.

**Max Shapiro** (1:20)
Yes.

**Jordan Okun** (1:20)
It seems like the people love this more than anything else. I feel like we're wasting our time.

**Max Shapiro** (1:26)
Potentially we are.

**Jordan Okun** (1:29)
Let's get right to it.
First up, recently saw Bobby Flay. You're aware of who that is.

**Max Shapiro** (1:36)
I am. Yes, of course.

**Jordan Okun** (1:37)
Do you respect Bobby Flay?

**Max Shapiro** (1:38)
I respect.

**Jordan Okun** (1:40)
His business acumen?

**Max Shapiro** (1:41)
I respect his longevity, his business acumen and his ability to make money.

**Jordan Okun** (1:49)
Well, you never ate at Mesa Grill. Was that Mesa Grill his?

**Max Shapiro** (1:53)
Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (1:55)
Didn't like it. What about Bobby's Burgers? You ever eat at Bobby's Burgers?

**Max Shapiro** (1:58)
Never had.

**Jordan Okun** (1:59)
They're all over the place. He had Bar American, but we like his daughter, Sophie. She was on the pond. Yeah.

**Max Shapiro** (2:04)
I just, I've not eaten at a Bobby Flay restaurant. He had a restaurant called Gato that he opened a certain amount of years ago.

**Jordan Okun** (2:11)
He's got a, he's got a new, a newer, I think it's been open a year or two in Vegas.

**Max Shapiro** (2:17)
Amalfi.

**Jordan Okun** (2:17)
Amalfi. Maybe we check out Amalfi. Anyways.

**Max Shapiro** (2:21)
Yes. I respect Bobby Flay.

**Jordan Okun** (2:22)
Uh-oh.
The throat. The throat.

**Max Shapiro** (2:25)
The throat.

**Jordan Okun** (2:25)
Hold on. What was that?

**Max Shapiro** (2:28)
I don't know what happened.

**Jordan Okun** (2:29)
Anyways, this person writes in, recently saw Bobby Flay say he washes his chicken before cooking it. Does Max concur?

**Max Shapiro** (2:38)
So, I'm making a chicken this evening, whenever this airs out, it doesn't matter.
And I spatchcock, right? And when you spatchcock, there's a lot, still some goop on the bones. Some of that gunk on the inside. I don't wash the whole chicken, I just wash the goop off the bones because I'm going to put it in the fridge for two days, uncover it.

**Jordan Okun** (3:00)
You can't put the goop in the fridge, folks.

**Max Shapiro** (3:02)
So, yeah, I wash the cavity, but I don't necessarily wash.

**Jordan Okun** (3:07)
But it sounds like he's dropping chicken breasts into running water before he, you know, flays them.

**Max Shapiro** (3:15)
I don't, he flays them? I don't do that. I just, I wash the cavity out.

**Jordan Okun** (3:20)
Yeah.
And the person only asked, Max, what about me, asshole? You know, I almost exclusively cook chicken here. My chicken bolognese.

**Max Shapiro** (3:29)
Do people know that? Oh, the chicken, okay. Do you wash your chicken for your chicken bolognese?

**Jordan Okun** (3:33)
The ground chicken?

**Max Shapiro** (3:34)
Sorry, I said bolognese.

**Jordan Okun** (3:37)
Is Bobby Flay, I should ask Sophie, what Bobby really meant about this? I wonder if he's washing his ground chicken. Should I be washing my ground chicken for my famous bolognese?

**Max Shapiro** (3:49)
I don't think Bobby is washing ground chicken.

**Jordan Okun** (3:52)
Washing chicken seems crazy to me. I understand this goop thing.

**Max Shapiro** (3:56)
Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (3:57)
But most people aren't spatchcockin and I don't think he was exclusively talking about spatchcockin. It sounds like a pretty general question. Do you wash your chicken before cooking it?