Putting Principles Into Action | NFL Legend, Jim Zorn

Jim Zorn (0:00)

Sometimes, I think, we as people, we see ourselves as victims, and I think part of my upbringing is, I've had to say to myself, don't be a victim here. This is the way it is, so deal with the way it is. You can't be a victim all your life.

But then the second thing is, is we're always wanting to say that feelings, if you will, are neither right nor wrong. They're just feelings. Just because you have a feeling doesn't make it a fact.

Michael Gervais (0:41)

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Now, this week's conversation is with Jim Zorn, a former NFL quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks. And he was the second person inducted into the Ring of Honor. And essentially, the Ring of Honor is, you know, in basketball arenas, you'll see jerseys hung from the rafters. Well, this is very much the same thing. It's like that core nucleus of people that have really shaped the DNA of the organization. So Jim was the starting quarterback for the Seahawks during their first eight seasons as a franchise, and he's just a Seattle legend. Jim also coached in the NFL from 1997 to 2012, primarily with quarterbacks. And in this conversation, we discuss what led Jim to football, which is really interesting for, you know, if you're not interested in football, that doesn't matter. Like, this is like, what are the elements that are sit underneath the surface of why you're doing what you're doing? Or maybe as you're trying to sort out what it is that you want to do in the next phase of your life, what are the elements that were important to him that led him down the path? And maybe you can do the same investigation with yourself. And so we want to understand also for him, because the quarterback has a big part of the mental game, like how did he manage that? And how did he move past caring what others thought of him? And so in Jim's words, I had to be willing to be embarrassed if I was going to try to get better.