Purify This! With Logan Williams

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Logan Williams (0:54)

So I find two examples where there's something going on, which there isn't a name for, but I give it a label and I call it the Nominative Absolute Circumstantial Participle.

Dan Beecher (1:07)

All right, fine, fine. If we're going to go there, let's go there.

Dan McClellan (1:11)

No, you need to do what the 19th century Germans did. Just name it after yourself. The Logan rule.

SPEAKER_6 (1:15)

The Logan construction. Yeah.

Logan Williams (1:18)

No, I'm not that vain.

Dan McClellan (1:25)

Hey, everybody. I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:27)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:28)

And you are listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and combat that ever present misinformation about the same. How are things, Dan?

Dan Beecher (1:41)

Things are great. I'm looking forward to our guests today. I'm thinking about very little else. We are, interestingly right, we're recording this right after a certain election happened. And I am trying not to think too much about that. So let's dive in and introduce our guest.

Dan McClellan (2:00)

All right. Today, welcome Logan Williams to the show. Logan is the Kirby Lang Research Fellow in New Testament up in lovely Aberdeen in Scotland. Thank you so much for joining us today, Logan.

Logan Williams (2:15)

Great to be here. Thanks for having me.

Dan McClellan (2:17)

Yeah. Well, we appreciate it very much. And you recently published an article that we're here primarily to talk about. Hopefully we get to talk about some other stuff, get into it a little bit regarding some Christological controversy. But you published in a journal called New Testament Studies, an open access article, The Stomach Purifies All Foods, Jesus's Anatomical Argument in Mark 7, 18-19, which is addressing something that I actually talked about a little bit in a video a while ago. I was just sharing my understanding of the received wisdom. And I can't remember if you responded to, like on Twitter or Facebook or something like that, or if somebody else was like, okay, man, get caught.

Logan Williams (3:04)

I was someone like, what do you think about at Logan's argument? And I was like, that's not really fair because it's not out. Like, you know, like, and I remember replying like, you know, like, no shade on Dan, he's stating the consensus. And I have this really idiosyncratic view, which, which a peop, you know, some people have argued something similar before, but I was like, yeah, just wait till it comes out. Don't, you know, stop being a reply guy to anyone. I get this all the time. Like someone, some random pastor will be like, Jesus freed us from the food laws. And they'll be like, but Logan. And I'm like, what? Like before the article came out, I'm like, that's not helpful. Like what, what is that supposed to do for people? Like, I mean, I did have a video of like an old presentation I did on it that it's developed, the argument has developed quite a bit since then, but it was, it was like, there was some rumble before it was out, which I felt like was just like not helpful.

Dan Beecher (3:59)

Cause I was like, I think one of the interesting things as we get into this, one of the interesting things of this will be that this is something for non-scholars like myself. This is one of those moments where you really can under, you get a sort of window into what the, the world of biblical scholarship looks like. Because I'm, you know, I'm not used to that world until I started doing this podcast, I was not used to the world of biblical scholarship. Your article hinges on four Greek words, essentially. And like, the minutiae that you people get into, that is pretty amazing.