Pete & Big Mac Debate Stan Lee vs. Spielberg and a Warwick Bear artwork

Pete & Big Mac Debate Stan Lee vs. Spielberg and a Warwick Bear

The Carton Show with Craig Carton & Chris McMonigle

August 31, 2026

Pete McMonigle and Big Mac debate the cultural impact of Stan Lee compared to Steven Spielberg while revisiting classic movie scenes. They also recount a listener's encounter with a bear during an ice cream bet and look ahead to the Giants' regular-season roster.
Speakers: Pete McMonigle

Topics: Sports

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
Can it think...

**Pete McMonigle** (0:02)
Thought it was think sick like ginger ale. That's coming up, right?

**SPEAKER_1** (0:09)
Talk of the clock is painful and logical.

**Pete McMonigle** (0:14)
What? The name of the band is going to come to me. Hold on.
This is Heart in a Blender, right?

**SPEAKER_1** (0:20)
It's like dicked in phrases. I think thick like ginger ale. My stomach turns and I exhale.

**Pete McMonigle** (0:31)
All right. What's the name of the band?

**SPEAKER_3** (0:33)
Eve Six.

**Pete McMonigle** (0:34)
Eve Six.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:36)
Heart in a Blender.

**Pete McMonigle** (0:37)
And then they had the other song, which was my graduation song pretty much. It came out the summer of 2001

**SPEAKER_3** (0:42)
Was it graduation?

**Pete McMonigle** (0:43)
No, it wasn't called graduation, but it was kind of like, here's to the nights we felt alive.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:50)
Here's to the tears we knew we'd cry.

**Pete McMonigle** (0:54)
And it came out like just as I was graduating high school. So that was like the big song.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:57)
That was a great album, by the way. The whole album was amazing.

**Pete McMonigle** (1:01)
Was that the same time? I'm going to see if that was on the same album.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:04)
I want to say.

**Pete McMonigle** (1:05)
I feel like the Heart in a Blender song came out a couple of years earlier.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:08)
It wasn't a, what's that? As we go on.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:12)
Yeah.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:12)
That wasn't your graduation song?

**SPEAKER_3** (1:14)
Who was that? That was Mel C? No, that was Vitamin, right? Vitamin C.

**Pete McMonigle** (1:18)
Yeah, I don't remember that at all.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:20)
You don't remember Vitamin C?

**Pete McMonigle** (1:20)
No, I don't remember that being the name. I know the song you're talking about. To me, no, that was like, again, we didn't have like a necessary graduation song, but it was so on the nose about like, here's to the nights, we'll say goodbye, all that kind of crap. So it was like very much, and it was right at that time period. And then I remember being very excited. I convinced I was the one behind it. For those of you who had a problem with Polk Street graduation, 1995, I was the one who convinced the music teacher to sing So Hard to Say Goodbye by Boys to Men at our graduation.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:58)
Great choice, by the way.

**Pete McMonigle** (1:59)
Loved it. Awesome song. It was an awesome song, but I'm just saying there was a lot of choices, and I insisted, I said, I'm not doing anything else, but Boys to Men, So Hard to Say Goodbye. I don't want to hear anything. I don't want to hear turn, turn, turn.
As much as I love that song, it's got to be Boys to Men. Had to be.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:19)
I forget what song we sang, but I think a lot of people wanted, not Wyclef John, who was the other guy?

**Pete McMonigle** (2:25)
Gone till November.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:26)
Busta Rhymes, Busta Rhymes.

**Pete McMonigle** (2:28)
Put your head up.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:29)
What was it?

**SPEAKER_4** (2:31)
Are you talking about Tupac?

**SPEAKER_3** (2:32)
Keep your head up?

**Pete McMonigle** (2:33)
No.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:35)
What was his first hit that he had? Busta Rhymes.

**Pete McMonigle** (2:39)
For a graduation?

**SPEAKER_3** (2:41)
Yes, gotcha.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:41)
Hoo-ha!

**SPEAKER_3** (2:42)
Yes, that's it.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:43)
I actually sound more like Al Pacino.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:45)
Hoo-ha!

**Pete McMonigle** (2:46)
Hoo-ha!

**SPEAKER_4** (2:47)
I'm in the dark here!

**Pete McMonigle** (2:49)
I'm in the dark! I'm damn good again!
I love Scent of a Woman. I could do that speech from Scent of a Woman over and over again. I love it.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:58)
That's the only part of the movie I've seen, to be honest with you. That speech.

**Pete McMonigle** (3:01)
The final scene?

**SPEAKER_3** (3:02)
Yeah, somebody...

**Pete McMonigle** (3:02)
It's also worth it.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:03)
Somebody sat me down, like, you have to watch this.

**Pete McMonigle** (3:05)
Well, there's like multiple great scenes of Scent of a Woman. There's the, obviously, the final courtroom scene. There's the, I'm in the dark here, where Charlie walks in on him about to end his life. And then the convertible driving around in the car, driving around in the Ferrari.
He's obviously blind.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:25)
Oh, wait, he's driving the car even though he's blind?

**Pete McMonigle** (3:27)
Yep, and then he gets pulled over by a cop, and he talks to the cop and talks his way out of a ticket, driving blind.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:33)
How early in the movie was that?

**Pete McMonigle** (3:34)

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