Part One: Richard Marcinko: The Founder of SEAL Team 6

**Sophie** (0:01)
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**Robert** (0:05)
Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the only podcast that you're listening to right now, unless you have multiple sets of ears, or have had some sort of invasive surgery to add additional hearing organs to your body, so that your life is one undifferentiated cacophony of noise. And if you have done that, why? Why would you do that to yourself?

**Sophie** (0:29)
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Sophie, you are the one person who needs that ability. Grime set, baby. Yeah, grime set.
That's right, that's right. Wire all of the audio directly into your brain. Speaking of things I want to wire into my brain, Andrew Ti, one of my very favorite guests. How are you doing, buddy?

**Andrew Ti** (0:47)
That's available. We could probably make that a product.

**Sophie** (0:51)
Andrew's hair is long and luscious now.

**Robert** (0:54)
I know, Andrew Beach Boy's teeth.

**Andrew Ti** (0:56)
It's kind of moderate, I know.

**Robert** (0:57)
That's right.

**Andrew Ti** (0:58)
Yeah, summer, it's summer. It's maybe never going to stop being summer in Southern California.

**Robert** (1:03)
That's right. It is always summer in Southern California.

**Andrew Ti** (1:07)
At this point.
Maybe perpetually. I had the most distressing thing that happened to me is I went to Santa Barbara. And distressing but not, I guess box crab is now very, very readily available in Santa Barbara when it didn't used to be necessarily in such numbers box crab box crab like the animal. Yeah.

**Robert** (1:30)
OK. OK. I thought it was like a restaurant. OK. Like literally the animal box.

**Andrew Ti** (1:35)
No, the animal is available. The little delicious spiky guys. And the way the like Fisher guy and the like restaurant people were talking.
I mean, they know it's climate change.

**Robert** (1:48)
Yeah.

**Andrew Ti** (1:48)
I think they're like they're trying not to talk about it.

**Robert** (1:52)
It just like it bums everybody out.

**Andrew Ti** (1:54)
All of a sudden, I guess, I don't know. Crabs just decide they want to live here now.

**Robert** (2:00)
A lot of stuff suddenly changed. Well, Andrew, you are normally you've put it on pause. You're the host of a podcast called Yo! Is This Racist?

**Andrew Ti** (2:11)
That's correct.

**Robert** (2:12)
That's right. And you are pausing it to do a Star Trek show. With Tawny Neesam and Jesse Jender, right?

**Andrew Ti** (2:18)
Yeah. I think we can cleanly say we're doing the Star Trek show as the main thing. Yo! Is This Racist might come back. But yeah, we're doing Star Trek.
That's a show where Tawny and Jesse are huge. Tawny was on Star Trek. Jesse loves Star Trek and knows so much about it. They both know more than me because I only ever watch Star Trek extremely stoned in syndication. So I recognize shit. Basically, every episode is me doing the Leonardo DiCaprio meme of pointing at the screen like, I know that, but I don't understand it. It's been in my eyes before, but I don't know what the fuck it is, or what the context is, or what the history is.

**Robert** (3:01)
Well, that is exciting. But I figured this week we could give Yo! Is This Racist fans one last little hurrah because I want to ask you an Is This Racist question.

**Andrew Ti** (3:11)
Oh, good. Oh, yeah, yeah. Maybe I'll bring back Yo! Is This Racist just for here.

**Robert** (3:16)
Is This Racist the Navy SEALs?

**Andrew Ti** (3:23)
Listen, my only experience with this train of thought is that people generally say that law enforcement and military, the higher up you get, like the closer to boots on the ground, like regular ass, like, you know, guys with no impulse control and anger issues, boots on the ground, the more racist it is. So I think there's, my guess is, I feel like there's a chance that it's less racist than your average Navy man.

**Robert** (3:58)
That is, that's actually not true, at least as regards to the US military. And I mean, how we determine the amount of racism in something, but the military as a whole is fairly diverse, like the US military is a very diverse institution. Special forces, particularly the highest echelons of special forces, are a lot whiter than the rest of the military. That makes sense. To a degree that's kind of uncomfortable when you also look at like where some former Delta guys who are now political figures and some former SEALs wind up. We're not, this episode is not actually about the Navy SEALs as a whole, but we are talking about SEAL Team 6 This is going to be a two-part episode because I want to talk about how SEAL Team 6 went from another special forces unit where the term you would hear a lot was quiet professionals. These guys are incredibly good at what they do and they don't talk about it because that's kind of the point of special ops, right?