Part 2: Journalist Cal Fussman on Questions, Storytelling, Adventure

Cal Fussman (0:00)

On the 18th time, I go left hand, right hand, and then I come back with another right hand, and it catches them right in the jaw. And he actually stumbled back into the ropes. And then he looked at me like, It's on.

And now he's coming in at me.

Michael Gervais (0:31)

Follow me.

All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast. I'm Michael Gervais, and this is part two of a conversation with Cal Fussman. And if you're new to this podcast, the idea is to learn from people who are on the path of mastery to better understand what they're searching for and understand how they think, how they've organized their life efforts and the mental skills that they've used to build and refine their craft.

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But see if you can go down just a level deeper or two levels deeper to listen to how he's constructing and what he's really articulating through the storytelling craft that he's come so, so far along and how he's been able to refine that craft. So with that, let's jump into part two with Cal Fussman. Okay, so interviewing all these wonderfully big doers across the world, what have you learned? And is there maybe one person or one experience where you say, oh, you know what?