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Oz Pearlman (Mentalist): This Small Mistake Makes People Dislike You! They Do This, They’re Lying!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

October 23, 2025

Oz Pearlman, the world No.1 magician, exposes how to read people, build trust, and win attention. From Wall Street to the world stage, he shares secret tricks for mindset shifts and memory hacks.

Speakers Oz Pearlman, Steven Bartlett

TopicsBusinessSociety & Culture

Oz Pearlman (0:00)

I've spent three decades reverse-engineering the human mind to show you how you can use it, to know what somebody's thinking when they meet you, or if somebody was telling you the truth or lying. So let's do something fun. Imagine that in front of you was an invisible deck of cards. Spread them out in front of you. And now when you reach down and imagine you just grab a card at random. Now, look at it, look at me. Okay, close your eyes, hold your hand out, please. Now, before you open your eyes, tell us, what was that card?

Steven Bartlett (0:24)

Three of diamonds?

Oz Pearlman (0:27)

Open your eyes, take a look. And it's not magic, I can't teach you this. And these secrets, these habits, they're applicable all throughout life. Trust me, you don't want to miss the rest of this.

SPEAKER_3 (0:40)

Oz Pearlman walked away from Wall Street to become the world's leading mentalist, unlocking the skills we need. To read people, win trust, spot a liar and influence anyone.

Oz Pearlman (0:51)

My whole job is to make you believe that I can read minds. But here is the honest truth, that's impossible. But I read people. Through small, minute details, for example, we're hardwired from thousands of years, that if I approach you directly with two eyes, it can create fear versus if I turn ever so slightly and approach you with one eye, that one eye is less danger. So it's all about the smallest little nuances. Like think of someone, think of their first name. I got it. Five letters, isn't it? Tell us all, what is their first name? Jules. So this is a huge tactical advantage when you ask your boss for a raise or when you ask someone out on a date, and I'll explain what to do, as well as how you form habits, eliminating that fear of rejection, and also the fast track for confidence. But the next thing is how to improve your memory, which is a huge secret to success. And I have a tip. I've repurposed the instructions on a shampoo bottle, and the first step is what 95% is to do wrong.

Steven Bartlett (1:39)

So just give me 30 seconds of your time. Two things I wanted to say. The first thing is a huge thank you for listening and tuning into the show week after week. It means the world to all of us, and this really is a dream that we absolutely never had and couldn't have imagined getting to this place. But secondly, it's a dream where we feel like we're only just getting started. And if you enjoy what we do here, please join the 24% of people that listen to this podcast regularly and follow us on this app. Here's a promise I'm going to make to you. I'm going to do everything in my power to make this show as good as I can, now and into the future. We're going to deliver the guests that you want me to speak to, and we're going to continue to keep doing all of the things you love about this show. Thank you.

Oz Pearlman, you're a guy who can apparently read people's minds. In fact, the book you've just written is called Read Your Mind, Proven Habits for Success From The World's Greatest Mentalist. So for anyone that isn't familiar with your work and what you do, why did you name your book Read Your Mind? And can you read my mind?

Oz Pearlman (2:47)

So therein lies the dilemma. My whole job is to make you believe that I can read minds, but here is the honest truth, I can't read minds. I wish I could read minds, that's impossible. I read people, very different skill. This is built on the world of magic, what I do. Misdirection, influence, suggestion, knowing how people think indicates to me what they think, right? I've spent three decades reverse engineering the human mind. I'm teaching you habits for success because the skills that I have at reading people effectively, walking into a room, taking charge, influencing them. All of the things surrounding the entertainment portion are things that apply to everyone. If you can use these secrets, these habits, they're going to lead you to success in your personal life, in your professional life, in your relationships. And that's what I've done. I think that if I had done this same playbook and not been a mentalist, I'd be successful at any field. They're applicable all throughout life. You know, I'm pausing for one second because someone listening to this right now, I'm always thinking about the person there watching us. And why should they be watching me right now? That's my question. Who cares about me? I don't know me. They don't know me. Why should they watch this? I've studied you. That's what I do for a living. And I have something for you. And on Dragon's Day, I love when you make an offer. I love the visual of the moment where you can change someone's life, right? A founder, you evaluate their company, you make them an offer. So this is an offer, but it's not for now. You have to stick around till the end.

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