OpenAI's GPT-5 Flop, AI's Unlimited Market, China's Big Advantage, Rise in Socialism, Housing Crisis

**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
I just want to let Friedberg know, he told me to stop taking my nicotine patches because I had brought too much energy. Friedberg, you see what I got here? Nick, blur that out.

**David Friedberg** (0:08)
See what I have here? We're not doing promotions for this. We're not doing any of these promotions.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:13)
What you need to know is he sent me my own flavors, Japanese Wagyu and Burrata.

**David Friedberg** (0:17)
Just so the rest of you guys know, Jason is trying to get paid. I have no interest in this. Into an infomercial, and he's trying to get paid personally.

**Phil Deutch** (0:25)
Friedberg, I'm selling this on eBay. If anyone wants to know about eBay's site, please feel free to go to it.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:48)
All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world, the AllIn podcast. And we were supposed to take off this week, but no. Your independent, moderate moderator said no. Disgraciad taking a week off, no weeks off. So I told my besties, we're out gallivanting, we're doing a show on Friday with or without you all. Of course, David Friedberg showed up. How are you doing, Davey?

**David Friedberg** (1:16)
I'm here.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:17)
You're here. But you weren't going to come at first, you were a little frustrated that the other boys took the week off.

**David Friedberg** (1:22)
I was annoyed. We were going to record yesterday.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:25)
Yes.

**David Friedberg** (1:25)
I had gotten a docket, which we're supposed to do. What are we going to talk about? I read it. I mentally prepared, I drank some coffee, I get dressed in a t-shirt and I get in front of my computer. Then your co-hosts bail. They're like, I can't.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:40)
Your co-hosts too.

**David Friedberg** (1:40)
I can't. I'm in this country. I can't. I'm on this boat.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:45)
How many hours slash minutes of notice did they give us?

**David Friedberg** (1:48)
Oh, it was like five minutes before we were supposed to record.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:51)
It was 90 minutes before. 90 minutes before the show. That's true professionalism. But Friedberg, a consummate professional is here and we've got a full docket for everybody also with us. My God, Gavin Baker is here. He's at the beach, I'm sure. Enjoying a little recreation. But you decided, hey, let me get in here. Help Jay Cal. Let's lock the show down. Take a little time out from the beach and do an episode of All In. Thank you for doing that, Gavin.

**Gavin Baker** (2:19)
Always happy to help. I should say that I'm working hard at the beach.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:24)
I mean, it was supposed to be an easy, breezy summer. We had like a busy couple of years, but we're post-election. Everything was supposed to slow down. We get into a groove. It's never been busier, right?

**Gavin Baker** (2:35)
Well, we're just we're in the still in the thick of public company earnings.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:40)
Right.

**Gavin Baker** (2:40)
It's always busy.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:42)
Yeah. And of course, for those of you who don't know, Gavin is the managing partner and CIO of Atreides. He invests in private companies, public companies, or just public.

**Gavin Baker** (2:52)
Public and private.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:53)
Public and private. So that makes you a crossover fund. With us as well today, my guy, fellow broadcaster, Ben Shapiro, host of The Ben Shapiro Show, co-founder of The Daily Wire, which, gosh, makes a mountain of money and has a new book coming out in September, Lions and Scavengers, The True Story of America and Her Critics. You gendered America, Ben, in your subtitle, A Bold Move. What's the book about and why are you writing it?

**Ben Shapiro** (3:24)
So basically, the concept of the book is that we're watching civilization break down between people who want to build and people who want to tear down. And you saw that pretty clearly, I think, in the last election cycle, but you're seeing it all over the world. People who actually are innovators, people who want to build social fabric, people who want to defend the civilization, and then people who are interested in getting rid of borders, people who want to destroy businesses, people who are not interested in the foundations of Western civilization and see them as fundamentally bad. So it's really that contrast.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:50)
And see, I knew that you had something you wanted to say because the book business for a podcaster, especially one as successful as you are now, right behind us, number two in the rankings there. I kid, he's ahead of us. But we're manifesting, we're right there, right with Ben Shapiro and True Crime and Bill Simmons. So, NBA, True Crime, Ben and us. But writing a book is a net loser in terms of your productivity and time when compared to doing your daily show and all the other things that Daily Warrior does, yeah?