OpenAI Is Spinning Out Of Sam Altman's Control

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**Scott Galloway** (1:15)
Today's number 60 That's the percentage of Gen Z people who say they would find someone extremely attractive if they never used AI to make personal decisions. I'll tell you, Ed, I am just sick of Gen Z's arrogance. They walk around and act as if they rent everything.
Have you heard from Michael Symbolist?

**Ed Elson** (1:45)
I may or may not have heard from him, but I love the direction that we're heading in, and I don't want to change a thing.

**Scott Galloway** (1:50)
It's because you're some Princeton prude with like, who wants a PIMS cup, doesn't know how to drink beer. Tell a good joke.

**Ed Elson** (1:59)
You've had better dad jokes. I'll say this one was okay, maybe six out of 10 You've had some bangers. Last week, I forget what it was, but it really hit the spot. So we're trending in the right direction.
So I'm not going to tell you what my correspondence with Michael Symbolist has or hasn't been. All I know is that he's been a blessing to the show.

**Scott Galloway** (2:18)
I'm not going to say anything. How are you, Ed? It's not coming home.

**Ed Elson** (2:26)
Yeah.

**Scott Galloway** (2:27)
I agree.

**Ed Elson** (2:28)
I'm not going to lie.

**Scott Galloway** (2:29)
I hear you.

**Ed Elson** (2:32)
I'm struggling to find any silver linings or any positives out of that World Cup.

**Scott Galloway** (2:37)
Well, it's not like you flew to the US with your entire family thinking you were going to go see England in the World Cup final. Now I'm going to see Yamal and Messi, which granted is great soccer, but do you think it's bad form? I'm going to wear my Team England jersey. Do you think that's a bad form to wear that to the final or do I show my loyalty?

**Ed Elson** (2:55)
Well, take any support we can get. I mean, you might get heckled and people might call you a wanker, but that's okay.

**Scott Galloway** (3:00)
Well, that's called social media. That's called me. That's called a weekday for me. Ed, have you read my comments?

**Ed Elson** (3:08)
You're used to it. Yeah, it's hard to describe that feeling of just pure disappointment, but something I've been thinking about.

**Scott Galloway** (3:19)
That's because you're young. Trust me, you'll get used to it. Yeah. Have I told you about my divorce, my companies, my general, like every time I look in the mirror now, just the whore and disappointment?

**Ed Elson** (3:32)
Just to give you my sort of takeaways on just being an England fan, and also just being a football fan in general. Something I've been thinking about is, it's so annoying how much worse it feels to lose.

**Scott Galloway** (3:47)
And joy it is to win?

**Ed Elson** (3:49)
Yes.
Losing, the intensity of the feeling of losing is so much greater than the feeling of winning. I mean, we went to the England game and saw Norway. We had a great experience. I had an amazing time, don't get me wrong, but we got the win and then I'm kind of like, okay, like on to the next one. Great. That semi-final loss, I couldn't dig myself out of the hole. And you never feel that way when you win. And what is that about human psychology?

**Scott Galloway** (4:16)
That's alcohol. So no, I'm serious. When I was, when I was your age and I drank, it'd be like six hours of euphoria with a 10-minute hangover, a couple of Advil, a Diet Coke and boom, I was ready to drink again. And as I've gotten older, the euphoria shrunk and the hangover is increased. So just so you know, you're going to have more of that diminishment of upside with a dramatic expansion.