OpenAI Co-Founder: Start Building With AI Before You Feel Ready | Greg Brockman

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Greg Brockman (1:00)

We're going to see this massive renaissance of entrepreneurship. I think it is coming. I think it's really going to kick in over the next year to two years.

Marina Mogilko (1:06)

This is Greg, co-founder of OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT, which more than a billion users use every week.

Greg Brockman (1:13)

I'm pretty good at writing software. I don't write software anymore. I direct an AI for it to write software, provide lots of feedback and guidance.

Marina Mogilko (1:20)

When people are building software, how do you strategize around building something that's not going to be made obsolete with the new models?

I'm just about to show you something that I've built recently. Am I ambitious enough with AI?

Greg Brockman (1:33)

Well, I think the answer to being ambitious enough will always be no, because there's always more we can do.

Marina Mogilko (1:39)

For someone who is willing to step up their agent game and they have one hour, where do they start this weekend?

Greg Brockman (1:46)

I'd say first of all.

Marina Mogilko (1:48)

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I want to talk all things practical. I was recently talking to Nobel Prize Laureate in Economics, and one theme kept coming up that we have such capable AI models, but we lack applications. What do you think that you're launching this year will help change that and help people realize what's the power of AI?

Greg Brockman (2:10)

Well, it's been very interesting to see, first of all, how many people use ChatGBT.

We have 1.2 billion weekly active users. We have 300 million people who use Chat every single week for health queries to help them in their personal lives. At the same time, how many of those use cases just scratch the surface. And we see this in the metrics that if people use Chat for three different use cases, so three different things that you realize Chat could do for you, you become a power user. You retain, you keep using Chat and you want to use it more. But getting to those three use cases, it's such a hard challenge. And in some ways, it kind of makes sense because, okay, so here's this AI that can do anything, but what's one thing it can do? Right? It's like sometimes, sometimes-

Marina Mogilko (2:50)

What is the magic thing?

SPEAKER_1 (2:51)

Exactly. Right?

Greg Brockman (2:52)

And so really find that magic that speaks to you. But also at the same time, I think it shows this massive opportunity, this massive space that's almost a gap where you're talking to an AI, and the AI knows what it's capable of. And it could suggest to you, hey, you asked me to do this thing for you. Actually, I could do even more. Right? Here's an idea, I can make a whole presentation, a spreadsheet. So, that's actually been something we've been exploring. But I feel like there's something here about the fact that what you want out of AI is simplicity, right? You don't want an interface that has buttons and sliders and model pickers. None of that. That's not the AI we were promised.

You want something you can talk to that can solve problems, that can help you, can help solve goals, but they can actually even be proactive. They can say to you, hey, you got this email that's in your inbox that you've been ignoring this person for the past couple of days, and that actually I did some research and it turns out that here's like the right answer to the question, I've drafted an answer, do you approve?

And by the way, the use case I just mentioned, it's not theoretical with dots. I actually got that exactly, this use case happening to me right before we started this podcast. And so, I think we're at a point now where AI is actually able to be much more proactive and to remove so much of the burden of figuring out what is this system capable of, and to really help you and then help you be able to achieve whatever it is that you want to do.