NVIDIA's 11-Name Successor Shortlist, Gemini 4 Hydrogen, GPT-6 Cyber

Andy Halliday (0:00)

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Brian Maucere (0:01)

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Okay, that's all the things, all the things for The Daily AI Show as of right now. So let's pivot here and get into a bit of the news. And one that I was bringing up right before we went live is Google launches Gemini 4 Hydrogen. So now we're definitely starting to see the Elements naming convention here. We have Carbon, we have Argon, now we have Hydrogen. And probably doesn't take a huge leap here to realize that Hydrogen is a lighter, there you go, model.

So Hydrogen is, seems to me like it's gonna be, if you were using a Gemini flash model, like a 3.8 flash, it seems to me like Hydrogen might be the better one. Now, the way they're basically saying is they release Hydrogen, they also release what they're calling the Orgostrator. That also is something we've seen many other times before inside anti-gravity, which Andy, you've talked about a little bit. I have not circled back to anti-gravity in quite some time, but I know Andy, you were saying that it's, definitely should get its flowers, it should definitely be part of the conversation. And Google recently here has been rolling out quite a few updates where they were quiet for a while. So the way it works now is anti-gravity, from what Google says, is it already decides which model should be used. There's an orchestrator layer and it's using hydrogen for some of the lighter tasks as you would imagine. And it's using carbon and argon, excuse me. Although I think, which one is the one that's more security based, argon or carbon? I can't remember which.

Andy Halliday (3:39)

I don't know about the security aspect of it, but carbon is the better model.

Brian Maucere (3:44)

Carbon's the better one? Okay, yeah, so look, so I'm using my handy dandy, how we got here timeline. So 3.8 Flash came back in September. So that wasn't even that long ago. Then on September 30th, they announced Gemini 4 argon, initially prioritizing safety testing. So that's what I was thinking, Andy. October 13th, Google made argon available more broadly to developers and eligible subscribers. Then by the 28th of October, they announced carbon as its stronger model for longer running tasks in cybersecurity, initially offering it to select cyber defenders. By November 10th, they expanded carbon access and preview across the board and also in NIGravity and now two days later, November 12th. So yesterday, they announced Gemini 4 hydrogen and orchestrator with capital O. So it's a title thing, beginning a global rollout across developer, business and consumer products. So there you go. More coming out and there's some stats as you would expect about benchmark stats and all that.