**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
PlayStation, video games. Okay, no more disks. We want disks, we want the ownership. We want to feel like we got a disk. No, we're just gonna give it a download, it on your system, and that's all it's gonna be. No, no, I want my disk. I want to make sure I have the disk. I'm gonna read this to you, and I wonder how you process this. And Tom, I'm gonna come to you with this one, because it is a big story. A lot of people are not happy about this story, because they're sitting around saying, hey, if I'm buying this thing.
I want a physical disk of the video game to be given to me. That's what I want. No, you're gonna be fine just with the download. No, I want the disk, so let me read this.
Brands smell blood in the water after PlayStation access game disks, and they're roasting Sony for it. This is a business insider story. This is a business insider story that we have here. Okay, so let me go through it. Sony's decision to stop making physical disks for its PlayStation game starting in 2020, it has opened the floodgates for brands eager to score points online. Within hours of the announcement, companies ranging from creators of privacy software to fried kitchen chains piled on using the PlayStation all digital future as fodder for jokes, Sony said the shift reflects the fact that the general preference for digital media significantly outpaces that for physical disks. The post tapped into a broader backlash from fans who have expressed worry about ownership, media preservation and what happens when everything lives behind a download. Tom, what is your position with this?
**Tom** (1:34)
I'll tell you where I'm at position. I was part of one of these suits.
So once upon a time, there was a company called Voodoo. And guys, if you could go look that up, V-U-D-U and look up Voodoo box like 2010
**SPEAKER_1** (1:48)
I'm on it.
**Tom** (1:48)
Yep. And you'll see you bought a physical box that would download movies. And then you own those movies. And they were the quality of laser disks.
They were it was a set top player, but it was high quality. So I jumped in because Voodoo was invested in by Benchmark Capital and a guy named Bill Gurley. And so I heard about all this. I said, wow, this is really cool. I can own the content digitally stored in my box. Well, cool. Well, Walmart buys Voodoo and then subscriptions comes along and it change. And then you're ready for this. Bobby, these things had at the time.
One terabyte hard drives back then, back then, back then, back then they didn't want me now.
**SPEAKER_3** (2:34)
I'm hot. They're all on me. You know that?
**Tom** (2:37)
Exactly. And so what happened was you had all of the stuff being stored there. Wal-Mart buys Voodoo and then Wal-Mart decides they're not going to do it anymore. They shut down the box. I own the movies. I bought the movies. And it gets over to Fandango.
And then you know what Fandango did, Pat? They changed the pricing and changed the subscription.
**SPEAKER_3** (3:01)
Damn Fandango.
**Tom** (3:01)
Wait a minute. When you were Voodoo, I bought Copies of the Godfather at Voodoo. Then I bought Copies of Jaws. Those were mine.
Then it gets sold to Walmart. Get it? And then it gets sold to Fandango. And finally, Fandango, it was like a $9 million lawsuit, $9 or $10 million, Pat. That and by the way, you know who that money went to? The Voodoo users.
And so this is the tip of the iceberg.
**SPEAKER_3** (3:27)
I love you, Tom.
**Tom** (3:28)
Do you see how it came back? Yes, it came back. So this is people saying the same thing. Wait a minute. If I buy Call of Duty, I want the disc. If you ever go away, I want the ability to keep the game I bought.
And in the area of the and by the way, what if you sell to somebody else? What? Because they've seen this movie before, Pat. So the video game people are well aware of what happened. The Voodoo box, one terabyte drive, downloading movies, sold to Walmart. They screw it up, sold the Fandango. They screw it up. My opinion as a consumer, I think those both of those things are screwed up. That's my assessment.
And then you end up in a class.
Do you understand, Pat? Everybody thought they owned their movies.
**SPEAKER_1** (4:10)
Let me ask you, how often has Apple removed movies that users bought because licensing agreement expired? How often has this happened with Apple? Who else should I put there? Netflix?
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