Neil deGrasse Tyson On Aliens, Simulation Theory, and What Happens Inside A Black Hole

**Steven Bartlett** (0:00)
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That's helixsleep.com/diary. You had Obama make those comments about the subject of aliens.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:02)
They're real, but I haven't seen them. And they're not being kept in Area 51, unless they hid it from the president of the United States.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:09)
I think he was joking when he said, there are aliens he's just never seen.

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (1:11)
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Obama is scientifically literate. But if you have the aliens, and you don't want the president to know, the president's not gonna know.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:17)
So do you believe there's intelligent life in the universe?

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (1:19)
Well, we have whistleblowers saying we have actual aliens. People testified we have aliens, that we have alien crash parts. So I don't see why they wouldn't be, given the size of the universe.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:28)
And Neil deGrasse Tyson, what is the most pressing question that people are asking right now about the universe? And the first thing I wanted to ask is, why are people so interested in going to the moon?

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (1:37)
It's geopolitical. China says they're going to the moon. 50 years after we go to the moon and we all of a sudden decide we want to go to the moon.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:43)
Is there an economic upside to it? No, no, no, no, no, no.

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (1:47)
I already answered you. I said we don't want them to go to the moon without us going to the moon.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:51)
And there's no laws up there, is there?

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (1:53)
Space law is a wild west at this point. It's like who owns the moon?

**Steven Bartlett** (1:57)
No bit.

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (1:57)
Well, they're trying to figure that out. But don't delude yourself into thinking we ever went to the moon for science, then or now.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:03)
Okay, next. Do you believe that we're in a simulation?

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (2:05)
I'm whiny about that, and I'll tell you why.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:07)
And then, can you explain what a black hole is, like if you get sucked in?

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (2:10)
Okay, so you will see the entire future history of the universe unfold, and then the difference in gravity between your feet and your head gets greater and greater and greater. Eventually you'll snap into two pieces, likely separated at the base of your spine. And that's not even the worst part, and we'll get to that.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:28)
And then, just how small are we? Is there a most compelling UFO sighting that you can recall? Has your view of religion changed through all that you've learned about the universe? And what is the point of life?

**Neil deGrasse Tyson** (2:39)
Wow, you have a good question. So, let's get into this.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:45)
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