Myles Garrett & AJ Brown Got Traded, Caleb Williams on Madden Cover, Da Bears & Shirtless Ben Johnson | EP 194

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
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We are Marines. We were made for this.

**Travis Kelce** (0:43)
We refresh your routine by giving you inspiration to switch up your day. Do you remember those fresh maker commercials, Jason?

**Jason Kelce** (0:50)
We were just humming them, Travis. Of course I remember them.

**Travis Kelce** (0:53)
Of course we remember those fresh maker commercials. It's one of the best jingles of all time.

**Jason Kelce** (0:59)
Well, if you're looking to add a little fun, a little flavor and a whole lot of chew, they've got classic mint or fruity flavors, including the discovery roll with 14 unique flavors.

**Travis Kelce** (1:10)
Whether you're grinding through the day, stuck in traffic, or just need a moment to reset.

**Jason Kelce** (1:15)
The fruity ones are good, I will say.

**Travis Kelce** (1:17)
Oh my gosh, they're the best. I love the fruity ones.

**Jason Kelce** (1:20)
Refresh the every day with Mentos Chewy Mints. Say yes to fresh.

**Travis Kelce** (1:24)
Yes.

**Jason Kelce** (1:25)
Or get the fruity ones and say yes to fruit. There was a moment last year that I want to bring up that I thought was just a complete lack of class. I don't know who takes their shirt off at a football game. Are we going to get Ben popping his top off more this year? Like, is this a thing that's going to stay?

**SPEAKER_4** (1:41)
You got to own it.

**Caleb Williams** (1:43)
You got to own it. When he started doing it, we just lost our shit.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:47)
It was a great moment.

**Caleb Williams** (1:47)
It was like, look at him.

**Travis Kelce** (1:49)
Everybody's going nuts.

**Caleb Williams** (1:51)
Yeah, I'm juiced in the back. Ben didn't do it early in the year because he had to lift a little bit more. At some point, I started seeing him in the way room right before we go out to practice, getting a couple of squats, getting a couple of lifts and things like that.

**Travis Kelce** (2:07)
He was working for this moment.

**Caleb Williams** (2:08)
Yeah, he was working for this moment. For this moment right here.

**Travis Kelce** (2:17)
Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages and all sizes and hopefully of all parts of the world.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:25)
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**Travis Kelce** (2:29)
That's right, we're your host. I'm Travis Kelce. He's my big brother, Jason Kelce, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Heights. Shout out to those Bearcats too, everybody back in UC. Man, we miss you guys. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media, do a Heights show with 1S for fun clips throughout the week. Jason is going to tell us what we have.

**Jason Kelce** (2:49)
That's right. 90% of you got another great episode, as we do always. We're going to recap a wild bunch of NFL trades that happened just a day ago in the new league year starting. We also are going to hear about Chiefs OTA. Oh, and Caleb Williams is here. That's right. Before that, obviously, we're going to get to some of that.
New News is brought to you by American Express. Actually, we're going to get into it right now because this is part of the new news. I don't know if you saw this, Travis, but biggest surprise of potentially the NFL season.

**Travis Kelce** (3:19)
AJ Brown was traded potentially until the other trade happened the same day.
I would say this was kind of documented. It was going to happen. Everybody had had their eyes on it since the draft. Really, it sounded like you even knew because you said if the Eagles take a wide receiver in the draft, that means tells you a lot. Yeah.

**Jason Kelce** (3:41)
I did not know for certain, but I think I knew just as well as anybody else that has any type of intuition has been following football at all or the Philadelphia Eagles. You can always tell when the way organizations are answering questions about like, oh, are you guys interested in trading them? Well, we're listening to offers and we still value the guy. But if there's something there, we might be willing to say, okay, so they're shopping them and something's going to happen. Now, I think at the end of the day, it was not a surprise. I think AJ very clearly made it known that he's been frustrated in the last few years. And from everything coming out, it sounds like he wanted and was excited to move on.